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the problem was they could not make it fast enough, it's been theorized that if they were able to produce enough if it they would of lasted long enough to bring jets and the other weapons they had in the wings online.
"The Haber process now produces 500 million tons of artificial fertilizer per year, mostly in the form of anhydrous ammonia, ammonium nitrate, and urea. 1% of the world's energy supply is consumed in the manufacturing of that fertilizer (Science 297(1654), Sep 2002). That fertilizer is responsible for sustaining 40% of the Earth's population."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
Uses natural gas.
Estimated to have roughly doubled the amount of biologically available nitrogen on the planet.
Interestingly, the Germans had plenty of ethanol and liquid oxygen to fuel the V-2s until very close to the end of the war.
The answer is: he shot down 23 Messerschmidts.
What was the question? Why was Hans Schmidt kicked out of the Luftwaffe?
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I get blank stares when I tell it to young people.
Took me some time to understand the humor though.
in 1944. The German armed forces were still chronically short of all liquid fuels. Most evident in the battle of the Ardennes when even the crack units involved in the attack were not equipped with enough fuel to reach the Meuse River. They were supposed to capture it along the way. Most German tanks just ran out of fuel and were abandoned rather than lost to US action.
F-T is very inefficient. But when desperate and have access to slave labour then you will try anything.
My recollection from Speer's memoirs is that oil production from coal peaked higher and later than you state, but Speer could have been wrong, or (Yes, it has happened a couple of times.) my memory could be in error.
The Germans were always chronically short of gas, made much worse after the loss of the Rumanian Oil fields.
In fact , perhaps The Second World War should really be called 'The First Oil War'. Japan and Germany both
had the same problems. Anyway, thats history. I believe that South Africa has made the best shot at the
F-T Process during the years when they were under economic sanctions. But again, more I think from desperation than economics.
I suspect you might have slipped a decimal place there, and that it should really be 160,000 barrels per day instead of 16,000.
While I don't have the German synthetic fuel production for 1944, one of my military books cites a 1940 production of 4.25 million metric tons. That would translate into an equivalent average daily production rate of roughly 78,000 barrels per day. So, if the Germans ramped up production to reach a maximum in 1944, that would constitute about a doubling over the 1940 production level, and therefore indicating that 160,000 barrels per day is very likely the correct number.
While it took a tremendous effort on the part of the Germans to attain this level of synthetic fuel production, by modern standards it's pretty tiny, about the output of a medium-size oil refinery.
I bring this up not to nit pick about German production numbers but to perhaps add some perspective on what a major undertaking it will be to get even several million barrels per day of additional coal-to-liquid production.
pay attention Mudlogger.
What I am getting at here is that in regard to Peak Oil, you are only as good as your engineers, your geologists, and your managers. The focus on equipment limitations, etc. is valid, but I think in the real world often the most serious bottleneck is the shortage of highest quality well-trained talent.
The U.S. impending shortage of steel is scary. To me ten times scarier is our shortage of engineers.
Right now on CPSAN, Arlen Specter is running a Senate Panel investigating the rising prices of Natural Gas (NG).
Their solution?
Pass laws.
The law shalt provide.
That is even more profound than the "free markets" providing.
http://www.c-span.org/
Will they arrest and bring to trial Mother Nature when she refuses to comply?
Are you writing the script and getting ready to videotape it?
Title: "Munity of the Oil Bounty"
Mother Nature is put on trial for refusing to put out anymore.
Casting:
Role of Mother Nature: Sharon Stone (Whata ya going to do, arrest me for running out of lube?)
Captain Blight: Jack Nicholson (We don't want to hear the TRUTH. We can't handle the TRUTH!)
Young Ensign Christensen: Russel Crowe (We are masters and commanders of our own destiny. We got to turn the ship of state around! Call it mutiny if you must.)
I am sure that the UK have passed just as stupid laws in fairness.
The best one is still the "monkey trial" of Creationism vs. Evolution.
Next one will be stem cells.
With so much of our manufacturing being outsourced, maybe we really don't need as many engineers as we used to (('m talking here in the aggregate, shortages or gluts in certain highly specialized areas notwithstanding).
Even if there really IS a shortage, no problemo - we just import more engineers from India, Pakistan, China, or wherever. Engineering has become fungible, like almost everything else.
Regarding steel, I was not aware that there is an actual steel shortage in the US, though heavy manufacturing is not something I follow anymore. We actually use far less steel than we used to. If I recall correctly, the peak year for US steel production was 1957 (big cars and a construction boom). One must also keep in mind that a large fraction of steel is recycled. I don't recall the actual figures, but a surprisingly high percentage of the steel in a junked car becomes new steel. I would think we're going to run out of energy to smelt, shape and manufacture steel goods long before we run out of iron ore + recyclable scrap.
We could get iron by using our baseload power plants to electrolyse sulfide ores for metal, yielding electrolytic iron for feed for electric heated minimills, and also produce plenty of byproduct metals like copper, nickel, PGMs, zinc, lead, silver, gold, etc. This would not be economic at present prices. But if the dollar dropped 90%...