I want to repeat an example I used in another post on TOD, and re-ask the question:

Is crude oil and gasoline really that expensive?

My father commuted 21 miles each way per day in the 1970's energy crisis and seldom complained.  Inflation adjusted oil prices were higher then than now, even at the current record $75 a barrel.  Divide the per price barrel by what the average income was then...I made $1.50 an hour when oil went over $30 dollars a barrel in the late 1970's, or twenty hours a barrel.  Now, at only $75 a barrel, most folks make over $7.50 dollars an hour, which would be only ten hours per barrel.  If you make $15 dollars an hour, that's 5 hours per barrel.  Why was my father so nonchalant about gas prices?  He was getting 50 miles per gallon.  Not only that, he was burning Diesel, in a Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel.  He moved to it after having driven an Oldsmobile 98 for years...his fuel costs actually went down, while the cost of oil went up!

There is a serious problem of logic for any proponent to have to argue when trying to explain the absolute certainty of "Peak Oil" occuring either in the past or in the very immediate future to someone of a clever mind:

They will ask as a first question, "If that's true, why isn't gas and oil higher in price, in fact, WAY HIGHER?

This is difficult to explain.  So to turn a question asked earlier on TOD, in another string, Instead of asking, "Why has gasoline risen so high?", let's ask it the other way around:  "Why isn't gasoline far, far more expensive?"

If there is even so much as 30% chance we at the point (or past it) of sustainable oil production, the gasoline should be extremely high in price, at least as high as European prices, and European prices, given the PROVEN peak (and very rapid depletion) of Atlantic North Sea production, should be FANTASTICALLY higher.
Likewise, any competitive replacement, i.e., natural gas.  It is high, but not nearly as high as one would expect in a real "Peak" scenario.  And one more thing:  In a true "Peak" scenario, there should be little fear, as there obviously still is, of a massive downward correction.  All the corrections would have to be UP, and UP BIG.  But even confirmed "peak aware" folks still speak of possible downward corrections, possibly of fair sized magnitude, as though the "market" in oil is still like the market in stocks or houses, rational, and with room to spare in both directions....in other words, just a routine "auction" type market?  Is that really believable in a true catastrophic "Peak" energy scenario.  (and by the way, where is the hoarding one should see at the point of "Peak" oil?  It should begin soon if realization of a runaway demand exceeding dropping supply takes hold.  Do we have evidence of hoarding yet?

I say this not to argue against "Peak" but to ask why the "price signal" is a complete failure at such a potentially historic moment.  The implications of this pricing problem could be very foreboding, because if the price is being somehow artificially detached from real information, then when the "real" price has to be unleashed, it could happen VERY fast and with a magnitude that will stun the public and the system. Of course, that's the argument of those who believe in a severe collapse.  Combine that with Matt Simmons warnings based on the fast top and rapid depletion curve, the warnings in the Hersch report, and you get virtually no forward warning from current price signals.  

The only way the price can be maintained at this level must be (and I am playing through the possibilities here, please give more if you can find and argue for them)  (a) currency being artificially strenthened to maintain artificially high purchasing power of gas/oil.  (b)military force being of such magnitude that we are effectively "enforcing" our price  (c) markets operating in the dark on false and or "stacked" statistics  (ala Enron type accounting) showing that somehow the oil and gas is still out there and easily recovered with a bit more investment  (d) Peak Oil is either a fallacy or far in the future (we have to admit that possibility if we are to do an honest evaluation and prepare properly)

O.k., give me your best!  Which is it?  

We spend almost double what we did a decade ago on gasoline in terms of percentage of GDP. If this trend continues then gasoline and oil will be expensive if they are not now. The answers to these questions are all relative. Compared to the late 70's and early 80's things are cheap.
So perhaps the 90s were an anomaly and we're simply back to normal...
Taxes are not indexed for inflation (bracket creep) and this is  reason we are so stressed.  A larger percentage is taken from our checks than in the 70's.  All those gov't programs cost a fortune and the bills are coming due( soon even worse than now) Bend over...
I thought Peak Oil always referred to peak production not peak prices. I would completely expect peak production not to be simultaneous with peak prices as it will take market hindsight to figure out that it has occurred, and then grasp the situation and react. I believe the "market" will go go so far out on a limb based on theory. To push the price higher would require that more buyers/speculators actually believe to that extreme extent the result will soon be higher prices. After all no one bids higher than they need to to buy the oil, so if not enough people believe in iminently higher prices then they aren't going to bid that. Reaching production peak does not entail that price peak will occur soon. Most players probably have no idea how long the plateau will be. When you bet you bet not just on price but on timing too. With commodities it's easy to get knocked out of a postion because you got the timing wrong and something caused a dip before the rise. In the end I thinkit's pretty darn hard to corelate market prices with physical reality as there is far too much irrational psychology involved.
... and that is why prices will tend to "follow" the events. Prices now have (a lot more) to do with rising demand, not falling supply. The price signal of Peak will be extrordinary price movements reguardless of change in demand. Why? Because demand will change too slowly to make a fundamental difference. Supply, on the other hand, will make more than just incremental (albeit constant) movements. The price increases since 1999 can (on a global scale) be seen as a result in increasing demand and not of decreasing (although tightening) supply.
I'm not sure what you mean by the price signal being a complete failure. It is clearly "up" and this is in line with what prices are supposed to do at some point with peak-oil.

You have to separate taxes from European prices before you compare them alongside American one's. If you want to relate prices to peak-oil, you should probably just be looking at wholesale prices. Gasoline is also only indirectly involved with peak oil, which is of course about oil.

As far as prices being "fantastically" higher, we just don't know. This is uncharted territory. We'll only have some of these answers looking back.

In your last paragraph, it is hard to answer these questions because I don't dont know what you mean by,"...maintained at this level..." Is that a high level or low level?

I think it is hard to artificially strengthen a currency on the scale you suggest for a significant amount of time. I don't think you can enforce the price militarily. I don't think markets are operating in the dark. Peak oil is a lot of different things to a lot of different people. When you give me a one paragraph definition, I'll tell you if I think you're right or not :-)

Sir, Respectfully may I please take a crack at the definition of "Peak Oil."  I submit that Peak oil can best be described by a short list of definitions which individually may enlighten TOD's sense of direction in defining Peak Oil.
  A.Peak Oil falls into three (3) catagories all of which are directly related to a geologic peak. These are:
  1.Feild peak extraction (FPE)(by which is meant pulling out, pumping out, forcing out or otherwise retaining crude oil to the surface of the earth before that product becomes part of a specific nation's physically exportable limit. {The ammount currently available for export but held back or otherwise consummed by that country domestically. Further, marine terminal limitations will also impinge upon a givin nation and their ability to either get it in the pipeline or aboard a Tanker (VLCC)}
  2. Cummulative Rig maximum output: Derived from the sum total of production of crude oil possible for a givin feild during its moment of highest output. CRM is not theoretical it is demonstrated and like all good science experiments it is repeatable otherwise the feild or well or series of wells extracting from a givin feild are past Peak Oil and are in decline.
  3. Maximum country production capability(MCPC): This figure in Mbd is derived from either Feild(s)peak extraction (FPE)or(CRM)or a combination of both. Domestic use before export is NOT a factor in Country or feild peak oil production.

  For sake of discussions "Peak Oil production exported" (POPE) to the rest of the world is the maximum demonstratable ammount of oil in the tube or on the vessel over time (month/day/year). It is independent of domestic use but is of course subject to it because POPE = MCPC- domestice use.
  Further sake of discussion: Global demand has impact on the study of peak oil because market conditions as they move to the back side of the cliff may be mitigated by efforts derived from the study of market fluctuations during other non-peak times. However; demand has nothing to do with rig, feild and country peak production (These are internal and physical limitations not subject to the vagarities of demand) and export which may be influenced by demand but this does not necessarily need to be so. Study should not be inclined to discount the ability of Net exporting countries to decrease their domestic allowance wether by market or political forces. Market forces can only look upon events ex post facto. Otherwise they are speculative forces impacting upon a market.
  Opinions: No ammount of graphing and analysis of oil price or gas price over time will indicate (exponential or not) arrival of "Peak Oil" in total or country or world peak oil pruduction(X)Mbd. Price is derived from supply and demand and other factors not the other war around. Prices may certianly demonstrate that Peak oil has arrived and market forces are looking  at the peak in time past.

The price will go up until the bidding war finds winners and losers. Presumably the rich countries win and poor countries lose.

I don't think the oil markets understand peak oil yet. I don't think that there is a severe shortage of supply yet. We can't tell if we are at peak yet. There is probably the capability to raise production to over 90 mbpd as Chris Skrebowski's (optimistic) megaprojects update would suggest but I think it more likely that we never really get much higher than we are now.

I think we are in a waiting game to see what demand does, and what crisis happen in oil producing countries.

Its pretty horrifying to think of a few badly placed hurricanes and Iran even reducing production, let alone military action.

I think the price is somewhat detached from reality and when demand truly exceeds supply that it will escalate extremely rapidly.

We might be fortunate enough that somehow someday soon the US economy could take a turn for the worse and consume something closer to the global average of 4.8 bbl per person per year instead of 25. If US oil consumption could decline to maintain no supply shortage until they no longer import at all, that would suit the world just fine. If the US didn't import any oil and just consumed domestic production then they would consume the same per capita as the UK.

If I drive 40 miles a day to get to work and back, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year that's 385 gallons of gas at 26mpg. Thats 9 barrels of gas per year already assuming nobody else is in my car, most of the people I know drive solo to work and back. Its so crazy to think that people elsewhere on the planet might be seeking this lifestyle when it just isn't gonna happen for anyone else. I don't know what the average distance is in the US for people to get to work but my friends here in KC drive at least 40 miles a day.

To your question of why prices are not already much higher then $70 per barrel.

After having been involved in the markets a great deal my vote would go to "C".  Most investors are in the dark to the full extent to which the gap between supply and demand for oil will grow.  

Secondly, because the market is made up of hundreds and thousands of individuals, the market does not sharply rise or fall with out BIG news to influence the crowd.  That is some Investors may be catching on to the facts about peak oil, however, at the same time if they are wrong about peak oil they do not want to be caught in a price bubble and lose money.  So most of them are playing it safe.  Testing the waters if you will.  

This is evidenced by the chart above with annual price comparison.  Investors will bid up the price of oil 20% then, back off for a while and take some profits.  After 3 to 6 months investors will test new record highs and push the price of oil up again, it goes in a fairly predictable cycle.  This just happened in the last couple of weeks.  The market had a physiological ceiling of $70 per barrel, however once this barrier was broken the price was free to rise to $75.  The price may dip down again however now that oil has crossed $70 per barrel, there is no longer the physiological ceiling.  A new ceiling might have just been created at $75 and maybe a couple of months from now in August investors will push it to $80 ceiling.  
In stock market theory this is referred to as the "Tea Cup Chart".  That is "A strong stock's price will Rise, Stabilize, Rise Higher, Stabilize, and Rise again Etc...

My central point is that prices will continue to rise as more and more investors test the waters of the peak oil theory.  This will allow the price to slowly rise, reflecting the growing understanding of the situation.  The only way I see a huge $200 price jump in a short period of time, due to knowledge of "peak oil". Is if the president called a oval office speech and explained the whole "Peak Oil Theory" situation to the American public on prime time TV.  Then he would need to call in a panel of Bi-Partisan oil experts to witness to a study of the theory they had just completed, finding it completely correct and more then that, they found it was far to late to do anything about it.  However I don't see that happening any time soon.

In a way it could be argued that public and investor ignorance of Peak Oil is the only thing saving us from a panic reaction that would crash the markets and destroy any chance of a transition to coal liquidation, shale oil, and massive amounts of solar power.  The economy can not handle a shock of $300 per barrel over night, however if you spread that same rise to $300 over a 10 year period the impact is manageable and it gives time for businesses to adjust to a new model.  

Of course this means that the sellers of Oil are not getting, what the oil is truly worth in the long term, however this is a better alternative then a Great Depression to end all depressions, in the next 10 years.

And I thought  "ignorance is bliss" was just a cliché saying.  

Interesting stuff. I think/hope we can move towards a gradual and controlled rise in the price of oil too. So maybe we at TOD should hope the 'optimism' and 'ignorance' prevail as long as possible!

However, 'events' or 'surprises' could come along and upset our delicately balanced 'apple cart' sending oil prices through the roof, with 'catastrofic' results. I think Dan Simmons is concerned about this unsettling prospect in relation to Saudi Arabia, and the possibility that they may have 'damaged' their major fields and production could fall drastically, triggering the 'panic market reaction' and price explosion he fears.

I think Dan Simmons is concerned about this unsettling prospect in relation to Saudi Arabia, and the possibility that they may have 'damaged' their major fields and production could fall drastically, triggering the 'panic market reaction' and price explosion he fears.

Dan Simmons is the author of the Hyperion series, the greatest science fiction of all time. You probably meant Matthew Simmons. :^)

RR

Yes, of course you're correct, I did mean Matt Simmons. I think my feeble brain was trying to tell me that explaining the cultural importance and complexity of Peak Oil would perhaps require someone of Dan Simmons' ability and imaginative skill. I've read Hyperion and was impressed. It's gratifying to think that such complex and challanging material still has readership. I'm not sure about the Illium stuff though.
No, no!  DAN Simmons is correct:  We're talking about the possibility that the Shrike will get loose among the fields, pipelines and refineries of Saudi Arabia.  Just THINK of what would happen to world oil prices!

:)

And I highly recommend the new "Ilium" and "Olympos" series...
I vote "C."  Enron-style accounting.  

Price only reflects the true supply if the buyers and sellers have perfect knowledge.  Which they most definitely do not.

And here is Exhibit A.

Don't worry, prices will go back down any day now.  Or so this guy says.

A bit more tension on Iran and a couple of nasty hurricanes and $80, $100 or $120 a barrel could result. But the history of oil is that the bigger the upward spike, the sharper the subsequent fall. That is what gave us ultra-low prices, $10 oil, after big rises in both the 1980s and 1990s.

The current boom in the world economy will fade, leading to a fall in global oil demand. There will be more supply, stimulated by current high prices. Dr Leo Drollas, chief economist at the Centre for Global Energy Studies, argues that through the current mess and confusion the fundamentals have not gone away, and they point to oil being too high at these levels.

I agree. I haven't given up on $40 oil. It is just taking a bit longer to get back there.

I agree. I haven't given up on $40 oil. It is just taking a bit longer to get back there.
I wonder if he's still covering short positions?
With the Sunday Times joining the Economist as would-be debunkers, an immediate peak instantly becomes vastly more probable :-)
Said like a true contrarian!

In 2002 I was visiting my father, an old oil man, who told me there's no reason to want to get back into oil at the moment - besides, everyone else is getting out. That was my first clue that "oil's not well" - a sure clue that the markets were about to change. Even back then it was hard to get a rig if you wanted to drill...

I read the Sunday Times most weekends, and I am not impressed with this guy on anything to do with energy. He is either a journalist or an economist, both unable to deal with laws of nature. The market will always provide is his best answer. Laws of nature mean nothing to him. He would still be predicting oil at $40 a barrel is just around the corner in 30 years time (which depending on how bad repetitive recessions etc could be, may be closer than perhaps I am giving him credit for). It is just that he thinks the world's economy is going to carry on expanding forever without any constraints and oil is going to get cheaper, if only the oil producers, like the UK North Sea region, follow his plan to increase oil production.
Re:  ThatsItImout

Following is an excerpt from my Energy Bulletin article on the MSM and Oil Prices
http://www.energybulletin.net/15126.html

Why Aren't the MSM Discussing the Import Situation?

I think that we are seeing an "Iron Triangle" of sorts defending the status quo concept of ever expanding energy supplies: (1) most housing, auto, financing and related companies; (2) Most MSM companies that are selling advertising to Group #1 and (3) some major oil companies, major oil exporters and energy analysts that are working for the major oil companies and exporters.

The housing/auto group wants to keep selling and financing large homes and SUV's.

The MSM wants to keep selling advertising to the housing/auto group.

In my opinion, some major oil companies are afraid of punitive taxation, and some exporters are afraid of military takeovers. This group of oil companies, exporters and their analysts provide the intellectual ammunition for the other two groups, i.e., promising trillions and trillions of barrels of conventional and nonconventional oil reserves."

Re:  "The Iron Triangle"

I listened to part of Ed Wallace's local Dallas/Fort Worth (auto related) radio show yesterday.  Mr. Wallace by the way has an article coming out in Business Week on ethanol.  

In any case, the show yesterday had all three elements of the "Iron Triangle."   Mr. Wallace started off with a long discourse on a speech last week by Lee Raymond, retired CEO of ExxonMobil, to the effect that the recent run up in oil prices was temporary and that the market would adjust, more supply would appear and prices would fall.

So, we had the ExxonMobil guy providing the intellectual ammunition.  

The journalist took Raymond's comments and ran with it, asserting that the price run up in temporary.

And all of the advertisements were by auto dealers, trying to sell and finance cars.

So, who ya gonna believe?  The sour pussed guy that tells you that you might as well start cutting back on your expenditures (energy and otherwise), get out of debt, look into organic gardening, or the guy that tells you that soon you can resume your blissful hour long commutes in your $50,000 SUV and from your $500,000 mortgage?

Mr. Wallace went on to assert that Peak Oil would not occur for 50 to 80 years, because conventional reserves were 50% greater than expected (three trillion total) and because of trillions of barrels of nonconventional oil.

As one who is trying to become educated regarding PO while also trying to inform friends and acquantances, I am constantly amazed that most intelligent, successful people that I raise the issue with have NEVER HEARD OF THE CONCEPT.
This may be part of the reason for the political inertia so far. Hopefully, as more people become aware of the situaion they will attract the attention of politions. The recent activity in Washington surrounding immigration being an example.
It also may mean that these folks, who tend to be investors, as they gain awareness, may continue giving upward impetus to the price of energy companies.  
Hidden in plain sight
Good two-page flyer that I use that covers the topic.  I can print it front/back on a single sheet of paper.

I give this white paper, with more detail, for people who want to know more.

Re:  Oil Prices

In Texas and the Lower 48, once we hit about 50% of the Qt mark, price had essentially no discernible impact on conventional oil supplies.   As I have documented many times, using the Texas case one could assert that rising oil prices correlate to falling production.  Of course, the reality is that the smaller fields we found post-peak could not make up for the declines from the large, old fields.

I continue to believe that the Lower 48 and the North Sea are our two "cleanest" HL (Hubbert Linearization) case histories.  The Lower 48 peaked just slightly less than 50% and the North Sea peaked at just slightly more than 50% (crude + condensate)--and production has not increased since peaking.   Deffeyes asserts that we are past the 50% of (crude + condensate) Qt mark worldwide.

Look at the ages of the large fields in the top two exporters SAR (Saudi Arabia/Russia) and the top two importers USC (United States/China).  All of the large fields are old, and consumption in all four countries is growing, in some cases quite rapdily.  Anyone think that this is a stable situation?

IMO, in the first quarter of this year demand for crude + condensate exceeded supply, and we are meeting the demand by drawing down inventories.  The best short term data in the world appear to be the weekly and monthly EIA data (a case of damning with faint praise).  In any case, the weekly data since February show much sharper declines of total petroleum imports than is normal.  

What I found odd is the combination of rising light, sweet crude oil prices and falling imports.  

Most of the MSM are attributing the price increase to speculators and geopolitical tensions.  I disagree.  I think that we are in the early stages of a bidding war between importers for rapidly declining net export capacity.  Nonconventional production will help, but IMO it will only serve to slow the rate of decline of total oil production.  IMO, from the first quarter of 2006 forward, the total net energy supply will decline until the rate of growth of alternative energy is equal to the rate of decline of conventional energy.  

IMO, oil prices would be higher were it not for a  coordinated effort by the "Iron Triangle," who have a masssive vested financial interest in the status quo concept of constantly increasing energy supplies.

So, a lot of energy consumers are going deeper into debt in order to try to hold on to their current energy intensive lifestyles.

Longer term, when the reality of Peak Oil becomes apparent to even Daniel Yergin, the irony is that it is people like Lee Raymond, Daniel Yergin and the journalists in the MSM, who are actually going to cause demand--and thus prices--to be higher than they would otherwise be, because they are, in effect, telling us today that there is no problem with the $50,000 SUV and $500,000 mortgage way of life.  

If you believe the Peak Oil guys, you cut spending, get out of debt, and live much closer to where you work--which is precisely what the Iron Triangle does not want you to do.  

If you follow the Peak Oil guys advice, tomorrow, if the Peak Oil guys are wrong, you will have less debt, more money in the bank and a lower stress lifestyle.  If the Iron Triangle guys are wrong, you could end up bankrupt--except of course that it is quite difficult to file for bankruptcy, now, courtesy of our Iron Triangle friends.  
 

I expected individuals to have intense denial of the need to change, but until you mentioned your "Iron Triangle" concept, I hadn't thought about the intense institutional resistance to acceptance of the consequences of peak oil. Of course, we have seen it from GM and Ford for a long time, but the housing industry is hugely influential, and it would suffer badly (especially here in California) from widespread acceptance.

Still, it probably is ironically helpful to have the realization dawn slowly as a poster above noticed. The panic of $300/bbl oil would create "collateral damage." I am pessimistic about the possibility of any of the orderly transitions suggested by Hirsh being implemented, even if it weren't too late, and it may not be. It is too late to do it without a lot of pain, but democracies don't accept pain without really compelling reasons. The UAW has accepted some (fairly small IMO) reductions in benefits as Ford and GM disintegrate, though.

West Texas
Like the Iron Triangle explanation and this re: oil prices.
  Logical. Makes sense.  god knows nothin else does.
 Thanks
Isn't the 'iron triangle' in reality similar to Dick Cheney's statement, that the Amereican way of life was 'non-negotiable'? That is, there are currently enormous cultural, economic, political and social factors that mitigate against our 'understanding' of the consequences of Peak Oil, and even our acceptance of its existence? I'm not sure the massive 'cultural' changes required of us by Peak Oil are possible with the constaints of our present politial/economic system, that's before one factors in the 'timeframe' problem.

One is almost tempted to the well-worn Titanic analogy again. We are on the deck, we can, sort see the iceberg, we choose to ignore its existence, because at this latitude it shouldn't really be there! We decide to return to the bar for drinks and a dance; a dance that may well be our last.

I am reminded of the scene in James Cameron's movie, where the ship's architect, Thomas Andrews, asserts that the ship will sink.  

Bruce Ismay, managing director of the White Star Line, says that's impossible, the ship is unsinkable.  

Thomas Andrew replies that the ship is made of iron and that she can and will sink.

Cognitive dissonance, then and now.

The important lesson to learn from the Titanic episode is that the ones that survived were the ones that heeded the warnings and headed for the lifeboats right away.   Of course, proportionally far more steerage and third class passengers died than first and second class.   However, when the end came and all of the boats were gone, it didn't matter if you were first class or steerage.  

Damn. That analogy hit home...
I think you're spot on with the Iron Triangle analogy - extremely powerful entities providing an overwhelming mass of misinformation at every turn to the consumer (not citizen) in an effort to continue the unsustainable myth of the growth economy.

Unfortunately if citizens want to find the truth they really have to dig for it and think about these issues - and for many this is just too much work.

Fortunately there are sites like TOD that provide some push back on the "party (Iron Triangle) line" - hopefully some are starting to get at the truth and realize that the rosy picture they've been sold on over the past decade (?) is just that - nothing more than slick marketing used to continue to sell, sell, sell...

Bang on comment to an excellent provactive question.  Please keep on posting with evidence to support your net exporter theme.
Thank you very much.  The Russian HL plot was the first time that I managed to scare myself.  
This is a bit off topic, but I have a couple of questions for you regarding your "net exporting nation" scenario.

First off, doesn't that scenario apply only if the exporting nation's oil resources have been nationalized?  What you're proposing is effectively the same as having one price for local consumption and another (higher) price for export.  If that's the case and  the free market prevails, then the exporting county's oil companies will simply export their oil, and the exporting country essentially continues to "buy on the open market" by paying the global price.  The only way to prevent this would seem to be restraining the companies' actions either through legislation or nationalization, which in this case seem almost indistinguishable to me.  Is there some aspect of supply allocation that I'm missing here?

Related to this is the provisions of NAFTA as they relate to Canadian petroleum exports to the US.  Essentially they prevent us from favouring local consumption over exports to the US, by mandating that reductions in exports to the US can only be done if matched by reductions in domestic consumption.  If the analysis in my first question is correct, this effectively makes it illegal under international trade law for Canada to nationalize its oil resources. Leaving aside the question of the desirablility of such an action, it seems to me that this law has removed one of the main possibilities for Canada to address Peak Oil for its own citizens.

If I can discuss this:

* First off, doesn't that scenario apply only if the exporting nation's oil resources have been nationalized?  What you're proposing is effectively the same as having one price for local consumption and another (higher) price for export.*

In Saudi and Kuwait, carfuel is cheap. Maybe they dont tax it? If the state provides free healthcare, writes off personal debts when a new Emir arrives [like Kuwait], low taxes etc, then there is more money for the citizens to buy fuel. Also many of these citizens are very wealthy by world standards

Essentially, this means that rising fuel costs makes them richer to pay for their own fuel. The lower the rate of export to us, the richer they become - so they can buy it themselves. So they are not part of the rest of the world's demand/supply balance [at this moment in time] and can continue to consume as their population multiplies.

I agree. Higher oil prices are setting up a positive feedback loop in the exporting countries.  Also, in a lot of cases, product prices in exporting countries are much lower than the world price.  And of course, Saudi Arabia has an average of seven kids per family.

So, what the net exporters can, or will, export is going to be squeezed between falling production and increasing consumption, while what the importing countries want to import is increasing, because of increasing demand and falling production.

And you gotta include Venezuela in that list now:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114584641133933834.html?mod=hps_us_pageone

Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez is planning a new assault on Big Oil, potentially taking a major step toward nationalization of Venezuela's oil industry that could hurt oil-company profits, reduce production and put further pressure on global oil prices.

Venezuela's Congress, made up entirely of Mr. Chávez's allies, is considering sharply raising taxes and royalties on foreign companies' operations in the Orinoco River basin, the country's richest oil deposit. Major oil companies like Exxon Mobil Corp. and ConocoPhillips of the U.S. and Total SA of France have invested billions of dollars there to turn the basin's characteristically tar-like oil into some 600,000 barrels a day of lighter, synthetic crude.

Mr. Chávez, a left-wing populist who favors greater state control of the economy, also wants to seize majority control of the four Orinoco projects and force private companies who run them to accept a minority stake, according to a top executive at state-run oil company Petróleos de Venezuela SA, known as PdVSA.

The moves would up the ante in Mr. Chávez's long-running battle with foreign oil companies, which he accuses of making outsize profits amid high oil prices at the expense of a poor nation. The stakes are high because Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, holds the world's biggest oil reserves outside the Middle East and is the third-biggest supplier of crude to the U.S.

...

If the latest initiative succeeds, it would eliminate the country's remaining privately managed oil fields.

Referring to the 70's and how gasoline was more expensive then

I never paid more than 79 cents for a gallon of gas in the
70's..

The Peak in the Seventies in crude
was short lived.

The Bottom 80% of America were never better off
than in 1974.

And since then thru various mechanisms
Ex-the Reagan Social Security Tax increase
their purchasing power has steadily eroded.

The Only thing keeping the bottom 80% in the game
has been the ability to extricate wealth from homes
and a gallon of gasoline costing
less than a dollar.

Those days are over.  America's
saving's rate is negative.

We are $15 Trillion dollars in debt.

I will argue that this $15 Trillion
dollars would be the exact amount needed to
pay for all the Hydrocarbons we have imported
since 1980, when, happily for us,
not so happily for them,
the Iran/Iraq War started.  What a coincidence,
that's when Reagan's Happy Days started.

Well, there are no more happy days. The till is empty. We can no longer borrow on
the Internationaal Stage to finance our addiction.

From now on it's how many BTU's did you earn this week, honey.  Did you earn more than you did
in 2000?

I don't think so.

As a Nation we are 6% of the World's Population, using 25%
of it's Hydrocarbons, and borrowing 85%
of the cost.

Our Military is the only thing keeping the wolf
at bay.

Oh yeah, when the oil markets actually start reflecting the
real price of gasoline, they will be shut daon.

James

I think you make some good points.  Many people are in a poor position to deal with increased costs.
1973 Oil Embargo on less than average wage and Differences from now
Having lived in the NYC area through the 1973 oil embargo--and, at the time, I was making less than average salary--I found the rationing and long lines the most irksome. The embargo lasted maybe six months. I did not find the price particularly onerous. Additionally, the brevity of the embargo prohibited any kind of deep effects on the economy.
The back-to-back problems with Nigeria and Iraq dwarf the magnitude of the 1973 disruption or any other disruption, according to the EIA.
US Energy Intelligence Administration reports that during the first week of April, the disruptions in Iraq and Nigeria were estimated to have resulted in the loss of 2.7 million barrels per day (mbd)of oil exports to world markets (gross disruption size prior to offsetting production from other sources). These disruptions came just as the previous one of almost the same size - the loss of 2.5 mbd of Venezuelan exports in December 2002 - was declining. The occurrence of two oil market disruptions of this magnitude in succession is unprecedented. Prior to these disruptions, there had been only six large disruptions (other than quota cuts) during the past half-century...

http://www.intertanko.com/tankernews/artikkel.asp?id=5715
The above article has a good chart on the magnitude of disruptions since 1951. A couple of points are worth mentioning:
1. The U.S. is much more dependent on long supply chains for its goods. Consequently, rising oil prices will impact the price of goods, especially imported ones. And, yes, the U.S. is a net importer of food stuffs.
2. The U.S. labor force is under pressure from cheap labor abroad.
3. If the dollar tanks (yuan rises), then we will see prices sky-rocket.
4. The growing disparity between the have and have-nots is growing--in the U.S. and elsewhere. Consequently, the greatest effect on rising prices is on those least able to afford it.
5. A long squeeze--such as the one we are in--is harder to deal with than the short jolt of 1973.
6. A policy of preemptive war makes everyone jittery, as does the possibility that peak oil is within our attention span. In other words, PO is between now and ten years out.
The embargo was short, but the price increase was not. In the nine-year priod from 1972 to 1981 the price of oil increased 9x. This increase fueled stagflation, caused widespread pain and suffering as the economy shifted to greater energy efficiency and during which ford stock declined to $1, and only ended when new oil supplies arrived from the far north - the north slope, the north sea, and Siberia - to offset OPEC cutbacks, and 'teaching' OPEC that high prices lead to new supplies.

The current price increase, ignoring the silly $10/barrel that occurred when opec had an internal quarrel, is from the $25 level that SA tried to maintain for years, thinking this price would avoid both recessions and any search for substitutes. We are now at 3x this price, so we are 1/3 the way to a level that might have the same overall effect on the economy (it is often said that today's price is below the 1981 peak of around $90 in today's terms. I think we are far below the 1981 inflation-adjusted price because I think inflation has been severely understated for many years, thoroughly explaining today's fondness for SUV's).

Sadly, the cavalry might not save day this time.

Just to make some (maybe obvious) points about the markets where oil prices are set:

Futures are very highly leveraged. For a few thousand $$ margin you can buy a thousand barrel contract, so for each contract and each $1 move in price, you gain/lose $1000. Futures contracts expire into delivery/receipt of the actual commodity, so they must converge with the spot market, the market for the commodity RIGHT NOW. Which is what makes the market so short-sighted.

For example, if your belief in peak oil led you to buy december crude last summer, when oil had pushed up to $70, so as to get in before everyone realized peak was upon us, by november/december you would have lost something like $15k/contract.

So in the market fear is the balance to greed... it would be great to own oil for 2012 (as far as contracts go now, I think) but how many tens of thousands of $$ might you have to put into margin to hold that position if the price goes against you (esp. if the economy falters)?

That's a good point about the futures markets. Even if you guess right about the price trend, short-term moves against your position can wipe you out.

There are two ways to prevent this. One is to not use so much margin, or equivalently to back up your position with a lot of cash, and just bite the bullet on those short-term reversals, holding to your confidence that eventually you will be right.

The other is to buy options rather than futures. You can get $100 or now even $150 options for relatively cheap (not nearly as cheap as they were a couple of months ago though!). The bad part about an option is that if the price never gets that high, you lose your whole investment, unlike with a future where you only lose money if the price actually goes down (assuming you are long). OTOH you don't necessarily have to hold to expiration, so you could for example have bought a $100 2010 option a few months ago and now sell it for a pretty good profit.

The big benefit with options is huge appreciation. I just checked, a 2010 $100 call option is $4.40 per barrel, so in units of 1000 barrels, one contract is $4,400. Then if oil goes to $200 by then as Matt Simmons believes, your contract will be worth $100,000. Making 20 times your investment is pretty sweet, especially for a Peak Oil true believer who sees this as a relatively sure thing.

Great advice, Halfin.  Just to be clear, these aren't standard options which are set against the price of an underlying asset, but instead "futures options".  This wouldn't matter because each would price according to the expected value of the underlying security on the strike date, but American-style options can be exercised at any point in their life.

And yes, commodity futures offer terrifying leverage.  Be careful.

Much safer and easier to buy stocks of the smaller US based exploration and production companies. You may focus on oil (ard/pxp) or natural gas (gmxr/upl). I prefer the former at this time.
The advantage is that if price increases or, very importantly, stays the same, your stock will increase because at 60/barrel these companies, growing production and reserves, are very profitable. If price rises further, all the better.
In looking for an oil price signal for peak oil, you need to be looking at an inflation adjusted chart that has some of the major artificial pricing episodes removed like this:

Some of the obvious periods when basic supply/demand was not the market's only consideration:

  a)the beginnings before a world market for oil was established
  b)the Iran/Iraq war wherein they attacked each other's oil facilities for 10 years (it was even called the tanker war)
  c)the Kuwait invasion and first Persian Gulf war
  d) the artificial glut of oil in '97-'99 that was, in fact, a "glut of bad data" as Matt Simmons has phrased it. This "glut" devastated the drillers, who were beginning to seriously gear up for what they correctly were foreseeing as a tidal wave of demand from Asia.

 This kind of chart pretty clearly shows the price signal you would expect to encounter as global demand begins to leave behind global production increases, whether that be exactly at peak production or just near it. At $75/bbl now, you would have to look at this chart and conclude that something has fundamentally changed with the supply/demand of this resource and it seems to be centered around the year 2000. You would have to conclude this even if you had never heard of Hubbert or seen a bell curve in your life.

 The demand surge of the 70s broke the 100 year price resistance level and will probably wind up being a mild foreshock of the climb we are starting. In the 70s, we had a huge amount of unused well head capacity in OPEC to somewhat control the climb in the price of oil. That throttle mechanism is gone now.