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Either I'm wrong, or it never occurred to the MSM to even question export capacity.
When the Energy Bulletin posted the article that Khebab and I did, "M. King Hubbert's Lower 48 Prediciton Revisted," (in which we explicitly warned aobut declining net export capacity), if you did a Google News Search under Declining Russian Oil Production, you also got that article as #1 for a couple of weeks. Since we did that article, the Russian Energy Minister has warned about the possibility of a "real collapse in oil production," and the IEA has started warning about Russian oil production problems.
We will see if a similar pattern regarding exports pops up. But it's kind of lonely out there for Khebab and me. Is that weird or what that no media groups appear to be addressing the net export question? They talk about produciton problems, but nary a mention of the possibility of actual declines in net exports.
I think you are doing a lot of excellent work, which, in a another world should be given frontpage space in the mainstream media. Unfortunatley, we're stuck with the world with got. I also think we're going to see 'logistical' or 'bottleneck' problems arising way before 'geological' peak. I just don't see how 'supply' can keep up with 'demand' in the furure, especially given the enormous growth we are seeing in China and India. Something has got to give somewhere.
Whilst we are less familiar with concepts like logistical peak, surely the idea of 'bottlenecks' in the economy is far more easily understood and studied? I know it doesn't sound as 'fancy' as some other terminology, but isn't it what we are really talking about? The oil is still in the ground, but for a variety of reasons, we just can't get it out of the ground in sufficient quantities to supply growing demand.
The peak in lower US without Alaska production about 35 years ago arose from an inability to get new wells to replace fully the depleting old wells. The biggest, easiest fields are pumped out first; as they deplete, the industry drills more, less productive wells,...
Alaska overwhelmed that depletion when it came on, but now it's depleteing rapidly, too. BTW, it seems to me that the early (pre-peak) tail of the Alaska production shifted the 1971 peak in total US production a little later than Hubbert's original prediction, as well as introducing a smaller, secondary peak on the down-slope. I think Deffeyes' more recent books show a slightly different version than Hubberts original paper, but I don't have the numbers to check this hypothesis.
When near the all-time peak in production (let's use the word "peak" ONLY for the maximum of some identified mathematical function unless we're talking about mountain ranges), the capacity to bring new production on line is limited, so spot shortages and price volatility reign. And we won't be sure this was the all-time maximum production until years later, when we're well below it and can no longer hope to return to it.
I think that there has been some confusion regarding logistics, as in getting wells drilled completed, producing and getting the oil to market--versus the mathematical term.
In regard to the Lower 48 versus Total US, IMO you need to define what you want. If you want a model for the world, you should use Lower 48. If you want a reserve estimate for the US, you should use total production.
Actual post-1970 Lower 48 cumulative production was 99% of what the HL model predicted, using only production data through 1970. I don't think that it is a coincidence that we are seeing record high nominal oil prices and falling total US petroleum imports on the downside of the 50% of Qt mark worldwide.