Before this century, life really was "brutish and short".  Suffering was MUCH more commonplace in all locations in the world, and options were few, except for the very wealthy.  Saying that we should STOP technical development is indeed a very, very cruel blow to inflict on somebody else

I've heard this hackneyed argument so many times it makes me wanna barf! Roger, I would really expect better of you. Sure there are nice things that technology delivers to us, I'm not denying that. But.... the "nasty, brutish and short" notion comes from the so called 'dark ages' and not from pre-agricultural human societies where there is actually solid evidence that indicates people were often healthier than their agricultural descendants.

I don't fall into the 'technology is BAD' camp, nor do I fall into the opposite camp of 'life nasty, brutish and short without technology.' Why can't someone acknowledge the dark side of technology without getting bashed like this.

If there is any camp I'm in, to be brutally hontest with all and with myself, it's the 'have our cake and eat it too' camp. Much simpler life-style with certain essential technologies. They can be extremely simple technologies. We don't need 99% of the technology we have today to enjoy avg. life expectancies equal to or better than we have in the US (several countries with simpler tech. bases already do this).

Anyway, end of this rant.

I think that most of would agree that we are happy to let others live any life style they choose, but if they try to force the rest of us the live the same life style then things are going to get very exciting.
I have the highest respect for the Amish, but I would not want to live that way myself.
It's called "Freedom", and thank God we have that here in the USA (at least for a little while longer?)
Economics will force a change in your lifestyle more than some "Other".  

Those farmers that go to a lower energy/lower fuel type farming will do well.  Those that demand to do "farming as usual" will need more loans, debt, and will eventually leave farming (except perhaps as farmhands).

Price ammonia fertilizer.  Tell me that a smart farmer is not trying to figure out how much to cut back.

If you are not looking for what is the smallest piece of farm equipment that will "do the job", then you may not die a farm owner.

(My grandfather got some ribbing about his Ford Ranger, loaded with hay bales one level above the top of the cab, and three more bales on top of that to hold them in place.  He started life as a sharecropper in the hills of Kentucky and died owning 800 acres of Kentucky bluegrass free & clear.  He was always critical of farmers that spent too much on equipment that "couldn't pay it's way" and was "more for show").

Well, I was a lifetime subscriber to Mother Earth News back in the 60's and 70's - Until the owners sold to a new owner and they said "Guess what, we aren't going to honor your lifetime subscription". The new owner is now trying to con people into lifetime subscriptions again. Once burned twice shy.
Anyway, that will give you some idea of what my outlook is on farming. I would agree that loans and debt are a good way to get yourself out of farming (or anything else) I don't own a vehicle I didn't pay cash for and while they are all 30+ years old I can still do all the maintainence on them easily myself (which you can't do with the "new cars". Rebuilt the engine and transmission in my 77 pickup 2 years ago. Just finishing dong some major work on my '62 VW Beetle and should have it back on the road in a week or two. Had a new VW convertible in '62 and just had to have another VW so I can listen to the sound of the engine going down the road <smile>.
Modern "Summertime" farmers that only grow grain crops are going to have some problems in the future I think. The "old ways" of keeping a variety of livestock on the farm will have to return. And then you have manure to fertilize the fields for free. Also, it is a lot more effieient to raise cattle on grass pasture than to raise them in a feed lot and grow corn and haul it and process it into feed and then have to dispose of the "hazardous waste" (manure) by hauling it somewhere to dump it.
I think you grandfather and I would have agreed on most things about farming. Especially on getting your farm paid for and then NEVER putting a mortgage on it again. Darn double digit increases in property taxes are more than enough to contend with.
Mowing your lawn with sheep and chickens is a lot more energy efficient than mowing with a riding lawn mower. (After you put up the fencing) City folks will have to go back to - Push Mowers! Remember them. I still  have a couple that I am rebuilding - Just in case <BG>
Have a nice day!
Amen!!!  

Thanks for the rant;    et

Sorry to have to disillusion you, but life really was short, brutish and boring until the advent of modern civilzation. Read a few archeological analyses of digs in ancient cemetaries before you try to foist off the noble savage stuff on us.
   A great modern ongoing example is the ongoing civil waranarchy in Liberia and the Congo. Life expectancy has declined to 37 years according to the World Health Organization and the region is infested with child armies and tribal warfare with solid rumors of cannibalism and slavery.
Not trying to foist off any 'noble savage' stuff. There is simply quite a lot of data from various places and times indicating that in many cases pre-agricultural peoples had healthier diets and generally better states of health than did post-agricultural peoples. I'm sure the life-expectancy thing was a mixed bag. Some places and times it was better than others. No stereotypes intended here.