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I thought I had seen a short item on Energybulletin.com on this, but cannot find it now. It covered a South Dakota highway department person stating they were going to have to do just that.
Do you recon the people planning to drive 20 or 30 miles to work on secondary roads from their "country homes" are going to like driving on gravel that is minimumally maintained - ie meaning lots of washboarding <BG>.
You might find the following URL interesting:
http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=2&aid=102620
Partial quote:
Potholes might not get filled and worn-out roads might not get paved as quickly as planned this summer. This is all because the cost of asphalt is out of sight. Asphalt, or blacktop, as we call it in the South, is largely made of petroleum products.
Take a look at this graph, from the California Department of Transportation, which clearly shows the rising cost of a ton of asphalt from July of 1990 to March 2006. Here is a link to the same paving asphalt price index in table form. Search here for other state-specific information.
This also brings up a question for the light rail/street car people. At what point can/will cities no longer be able to afford to accept new paved roads in new suburban subdivisions due to the unaffordable costs to maintain them? Might they then require gravel roads, but add the requirement for the developer to include streetcar tracks in the (primary) gravel roads?
Additionally, what is the current status of the use of ties in light rail/ streetcars? Are they still using wood ties treated with petroleum preservatives? Recycled plastic ties? Concrete ties? (I know the freight railroads in the west particularly are switching to concrete ties)
Concrete ties and poured concrete are the two most common nationwide. Concrete ties may last a century with "light duty". New wooden ties are an oddity today (too expensive, not as long a life).
New suburban development post-peak ??? IMHO, not an issue.
They are mostly used in low or medium budget spur lines and old less used raillines. This is almost a trap for the old lines since gravel + wooden ties + segmented track is more expensive to maintain then mackadam + concrete ties + fully welded track. The trend is that all lines carrying passanger traffic or heavy cargo get fully welded lines and the rest seems to slowly be abandoned. About 80% is fully welded but we dont have as heavy axle loads as in the US, we envy your rail technology. One iron ore line use 30 000 kg/axle, most new track or renovations are built for 25 000 kg/axle and all bridges etc for 30 000 kg/axle.
The nice thing with a high axle load is that more of the total weight of the train can be cargo and with a large load profile (loading gauge?) you can fit the same load on fewer carriages lowering the capital cost and getting higher capacity per m of switchyard track etc.
Plastic ties seems like a promising idea, especially if they can use low quality recycled plastic and perhaps even recycled fiberglass from for instance chredded windmill blades or boats?
They work perfectly with wooden ties (both are resilient and not stiff like concrete ties) and a plastic tie can be sklipped in between wooden ties for repairs. They last longer and are cheaper than wooden ties.
Progress and wider roads have brought us noise, pollution, and thousands of people who simply drive by our town with no notion of where they are or where they are going but mostly concerned with how fast they can go.
Gravel roads would do wonders for slowing down the traffic.
My impression is that the lifelenght of a road depends on the roadbed quality and the axle weight of the heaviest traffic. Low quality paving seems to be almost a waste of effort since doubling the material used more then doubles the life lenght.