I have been posting selected news tidbits on Urban Rail in order to give TODers a glimpse and education about real world issues.

In this case, Columbus Ohio is denied a chance at a non-oil transportation alternative because of limited Federal funds and limited local support.

Yesterday, it was about how Manila increased rail capacity by 50% by just buying more rolling stock, a VERY economic scaling effect.  (My guess, +10% costs, +50% capacity)

Rail typically scales up beautifully, unit costs go down (strongly) as volume goes up.  Add miles anywhere on the system and this will add ridership density on every existing mile and every station.  Transit Orientated Development speeds up the larger the system grows.

I rarely get comments with these articles though.  Are they of value ?

Hello AlanfromBigEasy,

Keep 'em coming!  Most of us TODers have very little knowledge of RR and mass-transit.  I try and soak it up just like I try to absorb the info series on Shale oil.

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az  Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

Hello, Bob Shaw and other TODers.

I'd like to take up your invitation with a few thoughts on light rail.  As a child, I lived in Oak Park, IL, within easy walking distance of a stop on the Elevated system.  It was very convenient: from there, a dime would get me almost anywhere in Chicago.  At that time also (1930s) there were connections from the downtown "loop," or from convenient stations, with electric interurban routes to points up to 50 miles or so away in northern Indiana and west and southwest of Chicago, as well as north 90 miles to Milwaukee.  All these were heavily used commuter lines.  All this was in addition to the "heavy rail" local and commuting services.

In the early part of the century, electric power use was heavy in the winter months and somewhat slack in the summer.  In order to balance the load, power companies across the country, especially in the north, invested in amusement parks where there was light rail access.  I can't speak for other areas, but around Chicago, the interurban lines were built as part of a utility holding company pyramid scheme headed by Sam Insull, that collapsed in 1929, taking some of my Dad's stock with it.  However, the electric lines continued to operate beyond the depression years.  The need for summer load balance turned around after the war, with the spread of air conditioning.

In my view, the public and political resistance (re: Ohio, in this thread) is simply stupid and short-sighted.  It appears to stem from it being seen as antique or quaint -- nostalgic and just not "progress" -- therefore unwanted.  But, dammit, it WORKED!

Cheers,
-- Mort.  

The South Shore Line into Indiana is still very much alive.
There have been efforts to kill it/grab the real estate from right of way using precisely the quaint & antiquated story. But it still WORKS.
You might get more responses if you did what you just did here...post a summary or brief snippet, and link to the article.  

IME, people tend to just scroll by large chunks of text.

I love the electric rail stuff Alan - keep it coming.
You have changed my thinking greatly.  I just never have anything intelligent to add.

But, rest assured, it is appreciated...along with your tidbits of life in New Orleans.

Rick

You have shown us that high mobility is still possible with a lot less energy.

I have to admitt, though, that I very often scroll down, whenever it gets too technical, or too specific to certain US locations.

Absolutely, your posts have great value, especially if you are living in the US, but less so on this side of the Atlantic.

I'm having a great time at TOD. You could wipe me off the floor reading that OPEC does not belief PO "theory". That debat is over; PO is not a theory, it's a physical certainty. OPEC may belief that it is at least decades away, but claiming they do not belief in PO is for sure a lie. Ask Indonesia.

I've always believed rail could serve us better but lacked information. Your posts help fill the gaps in my personal knowledge base about rail. Please do keep them coming.
Please, please keep it coming.  Your comments are always interesting and you bring a unique perspective to the discussions here at TOD.  Bravo for all your efforts supporting urban rail.
I read all your posts and they have done a lot to expand my knowledge about rail and the current mass transit trends in the US, which get very little if any notice in the European media.

So, keep up the good work. It will be appreciated.

You're preaching to the choir with me, but keep it coming.  I do not expect the US to do the obvious, logical steps, but I find it useful to understand exactly why these things cannot get done here.
Yes, most valuable. You have me pushing electric rail.

Casey Jones

Alan, keep 'em coming. The repetition reinforces the message. I don't usually comment on your posts on urban rail, but I always read them.
Its intresting to hear about post peak oil infrastructure investments in USA, please continue you posting.
I rarely get comments with these articles though.

If you want to add "and this is why New Orleans is one of only 3 cites worth saving" and I'll respond telling you to go pound sand.

Rubber VS road - 40 lbs of force to move a ton.   Steel wheels VS steel track - 5 lbs of foce to move a ton.  It is a 'DUH' issue.   So what are you looking for?  A 'thanks' each time you point out how much better tail is?

"A 'thanks' each time you point out how much better tail is?"

Actually I've never heard Alan mention anything about tail. Rail, yes, but no tail. Interesting Freudian slip though.

For discussions of tail, may I respectfully refer you to Don Sailorman.
   I too learn from your posts like I do form many of the other TOD posters and when I need to retrieve or refresh some info on rail I link back to your past posts and the wealth of data. I lurk here most of the time and learn from all the reports and opinions that I am able to read each day. This site helps me in dealing with looking ahead and trying to take some positive action for myself and those around me, those that will listen that is. My question I ask myself each day is how fast the squeeze will be (both in volume and time) and how will people and the economy handle the transition.