"at what quality of life?"

I agree totally.  I actually think a plateau at "China everywhere" is a scarier scenario than an explicit crash.

a scarier scenario than an explicit crash.

So much for your "moderate" views, "China life" is worse than billions of deaths!

Poor dear!
Have solace, there may be room for you in "China everywhere".
You obviously missed the link from step back two days ago.

Go cry me a river.
All the bad scenarios are things to avoid, things to work to prevent.  I just personally see a future of more and more people, managing to live in tighter and tighter conditions, with less and less of a natural world to enjoy ... to be very sad.

I went to the beach today with my nephew, and then we went for a hike through the park and over the river, finally playing frisbee on a green lawn.

I'd like that to be possible 10 generations from now.

Greer's Catabolic Collapse is essentially "China everywhere", with gradually worsening prospects. And that's where I think we are headed. It's either that or a fast and thorough crash, which would offer a ray of hope that some bits of the biosphere could survive somewhere.

My guess is that we are going to muddle along from one crisis to another ... wars, famines, floods, storms, droughts ... the human population only declining slowly over a century or two and taking most everything else with it. By the time the decline is over the earth will no longer have the topsoil to support much land based life at all. It'll be like Easter Island.

I just think people are a little too clever to participate in the fast crash. They'll be looking for ways to hang on, to burn that last tree, eat their dogs and cats, cook bush meat over a camp fire...