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Do you have any comparisons available on the maintenance requirements of Railways vs Paved Road? I know track maintenance is pretty steep, but with Asphalt going up these days, how do they compare?
Also, is there a way to design railways to improve on their railbeds' durability? I know that with such a massive, installed base of legacy equipment, the thought of changing the basic structure of it would be monumental.. but still, how would you design a rail system, if you could start from scratch? Wider wheelbase, Different track structure? Tie systems?
I spoke with a guy in the rail industry at an unrelated event recently in Atlanta, and he told me about the big 'changover' in 1939? to a unified gauge, all over Christmas/New Years week. Who isn't thrilled by a story about a monumental, almost insane effort, where everyone has go go above and beyond.. well buckle-up, I guess.. ours is coming!
Bob Fiske
But on the other hand railway maintainace disrupts the traffic flow much more then road maintainance...
I think the biggest difference if you started from scratch would be larger loading gauges for wider and higher loads and higher unified platforms. This would at least be relevant for most european countries. The wheelbase dont matter as much.
If you had enough rail to have two complete systems it could make some sense to have a narrower wheel base for light and medium heavy rail passenger only traffic and a wider one for cargo and long distance travel. But this probably only made sense in earlier times when earth moving equipment were primitive and concrete expensive and the smaller turning radii of a narrow wheelbase mattered a lot for the building cost. Large parts of southern Sweden once had a 891 mm network, three swedish feet from before metrification. One small part of the 891 mm network have survived for commuting to Stockhom and there are a few museum railways. The rest is either scrapped or widened to standard gauge. Had those lines been built now none would have been built as narrow gauge.
There are differences between now and then. The war time electrifications in the early 40:s disrupted the traffic flow a lot less and where made faster then those being made today in Sweden. Back then most of the labour were done manually, they used manny more workers, the equipment installed where lighter and security procedures much simpler. They could more or less suspend working within a few minutes and step off the track when a train approched.
But that were an mobilization effort and today we optimize for cost with a completely different cost for labour and other machines being available.
The differences obviously led to problems and, with the aid of a large number of navvies, the Great Western was converted to the standard gauge. If memory serves me right, it took a weekend for the conversion, but presumably the amount of track was small at that time.
astronomer1
High speed systems around the world are being built to standard gauge, evin if the home country (Spain, Japan, and Taiwan, for example) uses another gauge for its conventional system.
There is a move in Europe to integrate the formerly separate national rail networks into a single european network with common technical specifications, signaling systems, and the like, and some big infrastucture projects that will create trans-european high-speed and freight networks.
Asia is divided into several large "gauge oceans" of differing gauges; Western Asia, including Turkey and Iran, are predominantly standard gauge, as is China; the Indian Subcontinent is mostly the 5' 6" gauge; Russia and the Central Asian republics are mostly 5' gauge; and Southeast Asia is mostly meter gauge. Projects across Asia, like the Bosporus rail bridge, a standard gauge railway connecting China and Iran across Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, and the linking up of the Iranian and Pakistani rail networks across southeast Iran, are slowly knitting together Eurasia into a single network, although with several major breaks of gauge. It will be interesting to see whether the advent of Peak Oil and Global Climate Change will create a push for more linked up, inter-operable, and electrified rail networks across large regions.
Japan rail is all narrow guage 3.5 feet except their high speed rail network.
I would have built the track gauge slightly larger (New Orleans gauge of 5'2.5", 6 inches wider than standard) but with wider loading gauge and more overhead clearance.
Biggest change would be electrifying every rail line. Perhaps every other frieght car would have 1 electric motor and one driven axle. This would increase traction, acceleration & braking and allow for steeper grades on the track (much cheaper).
Changes today ?
Electrify at 60 kV AC, double & triple track most lines (back to 1950s), drill more tunnels, develop light weight & streamlined rail cars (aluminum, titanium, carbon composite) and my network of semi-high speed pax & freight rail lines. Most areas of US are served by two rail companies, try and build a third (perhaps my semi-high speed line).
Build more rail bypass lines around cities (save existing track for local service) and add more grade seperation (see Alameda (spelling) in Los Angeles). Rail tunnel to bypass most of NYC.
I am intrigued by Swiss plans to build quiet rail cars, making trains quieter.
Change US safety regulations closer to EU & Japanese standards. Improve signaling, thus allowing more trains/hour on track, better scheduling. Car tracking & routing is currently improving (bar codes & computers).
Off the top of my head :-)
Best Hopes,
Alan
http://krugtales.50megs.com/rrpictale/OWYtrip/OWYtrip_c.htm
scroll down to just above where the second set of pics start to show:
also, this short story (about halfway down the page) is quite wellwritten, it is the tale about a locomotive, 15 coal cars, a bet and a skilled engineer. One of the more exciting things I have read this week :)
http://krugtales.50megs.com/rrpictale/kiewit/kiewit.htm
This site gives a view into the world of american railfreight, always from the engineers perspective.