With respect, this is a mere regurgitation of the Social Credit concept of the 30's that comes up in hybrid form every five or ten years.  It has zero merit and has not checks and balances and hence would have drastic affects on our present floating currency exchange system.  It's opening and closing the door on new money is plainly "fiscal policy" is disguise.

If nations don't borrow their funds in transparency and provide annual financial statements, the currency plummets.

In short, no country can employ "printing presses" w/o dire consequences on the int'l stage.  Use metacrawler.com or your fav search engine to query "social credit" for in depth critiques.  If it sounds too good to be true...

Agreed.  
Freddy,
Can I ask you a couple of high level questions?

  1.  Do you believe that economic growth can continue indefinately?

  2.  If not, do you believe that a debt-based currency system forces short-term decisions to maintain economic growth without regard to long-term consequences?
We need more thinking along the lines of #2.  Would exchange rates be less incidental if all countries abandoned debt created cash?
In an ideal world in equilibrium ... yes.  But presently, leveraging of money affords nations to implement social and infrastructure program spending that prevents revolution within their growing populations.  Once a country attains status quo, they can be more frugal.  Canada has proved it.
Hi Jason.  Long time, eh.  I have long been a proponent of the concept that GDP need not have positive growth in national or regional economies with an ageing population (i.e. Japan, Florida, West Vancouver).  What is more important for a jurisdiction is to maintain positive cash flow; and stay away from deficit budgeting.  Canada didn't have the mini recession that u had in y2k/2001, but your businesses that went thru that one and the previous two learned that getting lean and mean and having postive P&L's was more important than higher and higher revenues.  It's the bottom line that counts... not the top one.

In North America, we have two decades 'til we reach the aged population of japan.  Italy and Germany are much closer.  For the most part, a larger GDP affords the wages for growing labour force.  By 2050, most nations will see that growth naturally extinquished.  And the Main stream media (msm), politicians, pundits and especially economists must learn that Recession is NOT A DIRTY WORD.

On your second question, first past the post (fptp) electoral system in north america and the uk is the scourge of good long term planning and economic strategies.  Legislators at all levels from municipal to Fed'l are always cognizant of the next Election and ramifications of their voting pattern.  They face tough decisions on sustainable economies, social programs, health care, safety nets, pensions and the environment.  We knew ten years ago that we had to go back to nuclear but it was not sexy to say that before ballot day.

OTOH, concensus gov't often gives bad legislation too due to lack or knowledge resources for good planning.

Deficit Borrowing in the 70's & 80's was for the most part disgusting but did serve the purpose of implementing a more social conscious agenda that was permeating the West and funded infrastructure for the Baby Boom ... schools, colleges, universities, subdivisions, plazas, urban growth in general.  But you can't do it forever and few countries are following our (keynesian) lead in Canada to sock money away in the good times.  We have had 8 successive annual surplus budgets and have paid down our nat'l debt by 12%.  Part of our good fortune is that we are the main exporter of gas and oil to the USA and we luv it when u want to pay $12 for nat'l gas or $75 for oil when our cost of production has virtually not moved in 24 months.

There are norms for federal, state/prov & municipal jurisdictions on the acceptable level of debt to GDP and deficit to GDP.  Staying within the norms on the short and medium term will allow their govt's freedom and flexibility.  Long term continuation will mean currency deterioration, deferred infrastructure mainenance and/or an approaching wall of taxation or privatization of their assets.

Inflation used to save individuals and jurisdictions from bad planning.  It was the grand forgiver.  But that is a concept of the past.  Central banks will not let us go down that path anymore.  Those who try pay the consequences badly (e.g. Argentina).

There are no empirical examples of g-20 nations that abide by conventional norms of implementing fiscal and monetary policy that face a debt wall.  No collapses.  Not one.  If a g-20 nation fell, it was due to other political circumstances ... not economic.

Some will point to Argentina.  But they skoffed and long term debt agreements and went short term while increasing deficits, taxation laxness and poor tax collection.  And the holders of their notes refused to renew for further terms.  Expecially when Argentian ignored IMF guidance.  They paid the price for their cockiness and a try at something outside the norms...

It is not.

It has zero merit and has not checks and balances and hence would have drastic affects on our present floating currency exchange system.

The system is a simplification of what we use today: independent central banks decide monetary policy and try to control the amount of money in the system - independent of government.

This proposal does not imply that politicians can choose how much money to pump into the economy. That decision is still in the hands of the central bankers: just as it (mostly) is today.

In fact this system is more accountable, because central bankers are merely well paid to manage the economy, there is no personal profit motive for them to inflate the money supply unlike with private bankers who are always under the so-called "moral hazard".

The report does discuss why this would not lead to runaway inflation. I suggest you read it.

Sorry Mike, but if your whole premise is that central bankers of the world are puppets of the five big banks and they in turn are run by David Eckes lizard aliens, there is not much to discuss.  The bulk of the Fed's profits are returned to the Treasury.  Each April they make annual reports to Congress on their profit in the marketplace and how much (insignificant) was distributed to the private members.
Either you're confused or I'm confused, or we both are.

if your whole premise is that central bankers of the world are puppets of the five big banks and they in turn are run by David Eckes lizard aliens, there is not much to discuss.

Er, where did I say that? I said that because private bankers can create money they have a strong profit motive to do so, regardless of what is good for the economy.

Central bankers today try and control that via interest rates, but interest rate adjustments only indirectly affect the demand side - and banks can use other tricks to make loans more attractive again to offset the higher rates.

Each April they make annual reports to Congress on their profit in the marketplace and how much (insignificant) was distributed to the private members.

Central bank profit has nothing to do with this. The large profits are being made by private banks who capture the seigniorage revenue.

"Sorry Mike, but if your whole premise is that central bankers of the world are puppets of the five big banks and they in turn are run by David Eckes lizard aliens, there is not much to discuss. "

What an asshole.  Someone offers a different view and you lump him in with David Icke [correct spelling BTW].  What kindergarten tactics...

==AC

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy crap!!! I feel like I'm in fifth grade again...

You are either the pot or the kettle.

I meant to start that post out by asking "Who said this?" "The LOl ... Holy crap" line is from Angry Chimp who I thought showed no patience with a competing argument.
"So our money is not as ephemeral as this makes it sound. Those dollar bills are very real claims on someone's land. It's diffuse, so you can't say specifically which piece of which person's land, but collectively the money is backed in this way. The money doesn't just appear out of thin air the way the author describes it."

It was in response to this comment.

BTW

I like to be the kettle...

==AC

Freddy,

The American currency--paper dollars or electronic dollars credited to bank accounts--is created at will by a privately owned organization called the United States Federal Reserve.[1]  The Federal Reserve creates money to lend to the US government at interest--and the US Treasury packages this debt as an "asset."

It's the current system that lacks checks and balances. Rules that once exists are broken down in the name of free markets.  The collapse of the gold standard, for example. I would like to know the current M3 figures. And you only have to look at the huge twin deficit of the USA to know that the exchange system isn't working.

In the name of National security, company's traded at the New York stock exchange can be allowed to report incorrect number. [Intelligence Czar Can Waive SEC Rules. Now, the White House's top spymaster can cite national security to exempt businesses from reporting requirements http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf20060523_2210.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily, ]

<snip> President George W. Bush has bestowed on his intelligence czar, John Negroponte, broad authority, in the name of national security, to excuse publicly traded companies from their usual accounting and securities-disclosure obligations. Notice of the development came in a brief entry in the Federal Register, dated May 5, 2006, that was opaque to the untrained eye. <end snip>

For American middle class stocks are there retirement funds. The paradigma is that in the long rum they have to up. Why would a government allow companies these hidden numbers on balance sheets? Maybe to prevent another Enron to happen?

But central banks do think about a collapse of the worldwide banking system. And in the conclusive chapter of annual report of the Bank of International Settlements they speak of a "tipping point" in the world capacity to produce oil and commodities.

<snip page 141>
Again, there are considerable uncertainties. To be more pessimistic, if the global disinflationary effects of lower-priced goods from emerging economies have been underestimated, then the consequences of the waning of this influence could also be unexpected. In addition, there is a great deal of uncertainty as to whether the world has hit a "tipping point" in its capacity to supply more oil and commodities, with the implication that prices might stay higher for longer than has historically been the case. To be more optimistic, there are still many lower-cost jurisdictions in the emerging market economies, not least central and western China, and production will eventually move there as well. And advancing technology could well compensate for the increased difficulty of finding new reserves of commodities. Yet both of these adjustment processes will take time. Given current levels of global demand, the risk would be continuing inflationary pressures in the interim. Moreover, to the extent that the credibility of central bankers has been enhanced by the earlier, fortuitous circumstances, this credibility could also be tested. It would, of course, need to be vigorously defended.
What grounds are there for believing that "imbalances" pose a threat to the optimistic view looking forward? It is not hard to identify a large number of significant and sustained deviations from historical norms in important macroeconomic variables. However, concerns about disruptive reversions to more "normal" values have to be qualified to the extent that such deviations can be explained and justified as being of a lasting nature. Unfortunately, recourse to such "fundamentals" does not seem adequate to explain either the extent or the duration of the unusual circumstances currently being observed. This leaves room for a complementary explanation: these phenomena might be linked to there having been such abundant global liquidity over such a long period.
<end snip>

And the central banks do prepare themselves for collapse.  

<snip page 148>
Making such preparations in advance of trouble would complement the wide variety of other measures which have been taken over the years to improve the underlying health of financial institutions, markets, and payment and settlement systems. A more recent suggestion that merits greater attention is the possibility of setting up "off the shelf banks" in advance of difficulties. The idea is to establish a legal entity that would be able to assume, at very short notice, the vital functions of a failed financial institution and thus mitigate the knock-on effects of closure. This would be another way to limit regulatory forbearance, which has often been a problem in the past.
<end snip>

Or is this path another way to overcome check and balances?

----

Personally I don't think that USA invested money of collective retirement funds from the Netherlands or elsewhere will be paid back in the end. Beside agriculture, defense equipment, software and Hollywood, there isn't much industry left to payback. And you can't pluck a bald eagle.  

Time will tell, but I know that real wealth comes from nature.

Bart Blaauwendraad
The Netherlands

A cheetah can't spend more energy on finding it's preys than it's getting from them.
[1] In 1982 the US 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that:
"Examining the organization and function of the Federal Reserve Banks, and applying the relevant factors, we conclude that the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the FTCA, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations."
JOHN L. LEWIS, Plaintiff/Appellant, vs. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Defendant/Appellee. 1982 No. 80-5905

Again we are bordering on a discussion that is based on urban legend, internet folklore and conspiracy theories.  When u understand that the Fed and their int'l counterparts are not the bad guyz, u will see that the checks and balances are in place and the last ten years have shown that they work impeccably thru each mini crisis that presents itself...
The checks and balances work until they don't. (We came close during the Long Term Capital Management fiasco.) How will the check and balances deal with peak oil, global warming, and the collapse of our infrastructure? If we don't start moving quickly toward sustainable energy management (conservation, renewable energy, control of population growth) it may well happen. Economics can't overturn the laws of physics.
Right on.  Seven billion souls use sh*tload of copper, aluminum, iron, water, fertilizer, wood, etc etc.  Oil does not have ownership of the Hubbert Curve.  It applies to almost all commodities and there are abstracts at the main ASPO site that show that there is no relation to passing peak and pricing.  Pricing is determined solely by annual supply and demand.  Demand destruction and alternatives products all factor in differently.  Since 2004 i have been a voice in the wilderness that shortages of commodities other than oil will haunt us more in the next two decades and we are in effect chasing the wrong rabbit.

Global commodities face peaks.  Some are trying to meaure it.  Methinx i saw one by the Ugo Bardi at the ASPO-5 english documents archive.  If and when i come across it again i'll send a link to this pdf.

Unfortunately it is discussions on sustainabiity that lead to all the die-off whacko's joining the thread and their glee to see the population down to 1 billion to better sustain those commodity reserves.  It can be a good discussion but their nihilistic rhetoric often taints the debate.

The most important commodity is the British Thermal Unit/Joule. It is what transforms all other commodities into the products and services we want. With enough energy all other shortages can be substituted for. Economic activity is only limited by the amount of solar energy our planet intercepts.
In my future history currency is based on warehouse receipts for liters of Everclear (lab alcohol). I've always thought that bottles of 190 proof vodka would be a convenient way to store joules.

Warehouse receipts make good money.

Your vodka warehouse better have a good fire suppression system or the backing for those reciepts could disappear very quickly. Everclear brings a new meaning to liquidity.
"When u understand that the Fed and their int'l counterparts are not the bad guyz"

Yes because when you finally understand that you truly will understand nothing at all and the world seems a much nicer place...

==AC

"As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor I had, named Carroll Quigley, who said that America was the greatest nation in history because our people have always believed in two great ideas: That tomorrow can be better than today and that each of us has a personal, moral responsibility to make it so."
~Bill Clinton, 1992

"[T]he powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country, and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion, by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.
The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves, private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control, and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
~Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (New York: Macmillan, 1966) p.324

Buy it and READ it;
http://tinyurl.com/zs3jy

Sure they're not the bad guys ... just the mechanisms by which the concerted human efforts of this planet are directed through credit availability to selected parties. That doesnt make them bad guys right? They're just looking out for number one. And want to get something for nothing.

But never fear. When things get bad enough for Joe average he'll find more benefit from skirting the laws and using self regulated mutul credit systems to meet his daily needs, and to find himself useful employment.

Trouble will come when the banks of the dying paradigm try to enforce their land and mining rights claims.