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capslock on August 21, 2006 - 6:18pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I don't even think the situation fits into the right-left political spectrum.

I see it simply as Olmert didn't acheive his military objective (secure a strip of land into Lebanese terrority to prevent their missles from striking Israel) and Hezbollah did (prevent Israel from occupying their land).

Also, there are people on both the left and the right who object to America sticking their nose into other country's business, giving free money and military equipment to other countries, intervention on the internal affairs of far away nations, etc.

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Leanan on August 21, 2006 - 6:40pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Agreed.  This is not a left-right issue.  Many conservatives (Pat Buchanan, for example) also think the U.S. should distance itself from Israel.  Because they believe we no longer have interests in common, basically.
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MicroHydro on August 21, 2006 - 7:11pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Double agree. This is an example where there is no representation in the media or congress of a substantial grassroots isolationist yearning.  If you don't like Israeli policy you are a left wing nut or right wing nut.  Israel is the only nation one is not allowed to criticize in public.

Another example would be the sly bipartisan support for decades of illegal immigration, an elite backed policy that is not even supported by legal immigrants, much less native born US people.

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Testudo on August 21, 2006 - 10:06pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Allah Akbar.

Every nation is entitled to self determination and the repulsion of invaders.

Long live Hezballah.

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Apuleius on August 21, 2006 - 10:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
That's funny, Hezbollah just embarked on an adventure to draw invaders into their country, without the country's permission. But if you want to say "long live" about a group whose television network produced a month long miniseries devoted to  telling the world that Jews use children's blood for passover bread, and whose hero (who they went to war to try to liberate) is a man whose claim to fame is that he crushed a 4 year old girl's skull with the butt of his rifle, well, Indymedia is thataway.
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step back on August 21, 2006 - 10:46pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Sallam alaychem brother.

Death to all infidel "occupiers" of this Planet.

Long live Ebollah.
Long live the reign of our dark master.

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Oil CEO on August 21, 2006 - 11:40pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
You're killing me. All I can think of now is Sean Connery in 'Zardoz.' Ever seen that?
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step back on August 22, 2006 - 1:50am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
Zardoz? Actually yes. But with PO & GW decending upon us, I doubt that "living forever" is going to be one of our futuristic problems. What does Zardoz have to do with Hell's Ebollah plague?
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Oil CEO on August 22, 2006 - 2:29am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I thought the super-bad special effects were similar. But I'm glad you are here. Can you remind us who is responsible for Hell's Ebola Plague? Some say the Saudis - some say Matt Savinar. Obviously you are setting me up. Few have seen the movie to start with.

It has everything to do with it.

The horses on the beach. I forget the terms. But basically, Connery was part of the fascist, Nazi SS, futuristic IslamoFascistJihadiDeathCult-types ...until he was set free by smokin-hot early 70's chickie-bunnies. And the flying head.

'Omega Man' is the next film you need to review. Heston in the Matheson Zombie classic.

Hell's Ebola Plague. C'mon, my man, we have screenplays to write.

The Zardoz community was largely about technology as you recall. They got past physical stuff and were into the whole mind thing. Oil would mean nothing if we could just get it out of our heads. No?

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Kevembuangga on August 22, 2006 - 12:14pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
I have seen Zardoz but can hardly find anything related to Israeli/Lenabon or Peak Oil in it.
Closer to the Singularity, however.
I guess you have to be quite a bit loaded with your "good stuff" to see the analogies you are reporting.

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step back on August 22, 2006 - 1:21pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top
However, in "Omega Man," that part where Brother Mathius wants everyone to either convert into being an Islamo-zombie or to die, well that could have a connection. Charlton Heston does the arms-outstretched sacrifice into the bloody pool at the end. Does his self-sacrifice for humanity ring a bell? Hmmm.
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