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dmathew1 on January 23, 2007 - 8:26pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hello LevinK,

If you are suggesting is to ban conventional CPPs and permit only IGCCs at sites suitable for carbon capture I would support you. But the fact it that you may as well ban the whole coal industry... it is pretty much the same.

Now here is an excellent idea which I can affirm. We should ban the entire coal industry from the horrendous mines to the horrendous power plants to all of the horrendous electronic gadgets which are powered by the electricity generated by this dirty, world-polluting, world-destroying substance.

Americans should learn to live with less electricity. This will serve to break one of America's addictions as we retreat from the hellish planet that technology is creating through its pollution of the Earth.

David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1

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LevinK on January 23, 2007 - 8:52pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Let's entertain this a bit.

What will happen if we just stopped burning coal and (obviously) nuclear starting from tommorow? I have lived during a permanent 3 to 1 rationing... not that bad, just quite inconvenient. But what about 1 to 3 or 1 to 11 (as they do in Baghdad and Tirana)? Forget cooling in the summers, how will people heat in the winters, since NG will be also gone? Tell you what - I think they will start burning wood... 300 mln.north americans by several cubic meters of wood = US deforestation in a decade or so. Is this what you want?

I told you once - our civilisation is just like a 1 mln.barrel tanker headed for an iceberg - and if your idea is to sink it then you need to know that all that cr*p is still going to get in the water. So, please stop wasting bandwidth with such suggestions and try to help those, trying to find a way to change the course - this is the only chance not only for humans but for the Mother Nature you are so much concerned of.

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dmathew1 on January 23, 2007 - 9:11pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

What will happen if we just stopped burning coal and (obviously) nuclear starting from tommorow? I have lived during a permanent 3 to 1 rationing... not that bad, just quite inconvenient. But what about 1 to 3 or 1 to 11 (as they do in Baghdad and Tirana)? Forget cooling in the summers, how will people heat in the winters, since NG will be also gone? Tell you what - I think they will start burning wood... 300 mln.north americans by several cubic meters of wood = US deforestation in a decade or so. Is this what you want?

If the 300 million Americans cut down the forests they will murder their own children. If Americans were wise they would end the coal industry and then adapt to their environment.

I told you once - our civilisation is just like a 1 mln.barrel tanker headed for an iceberg - and if your idea is to sink it then you need to know that all that cr*p is still going to get in the water. So, please stop wasting bandwidth with such suggestions and try to help those, trying to find a way to change the course - this is the only chance not only for humans but for the Mother Nature you are so much concerned of.

Homo sapiens are headed to certain, inevitable extinction. Mother Nature has endured much greater global catastrophes in the past. Mother Nature will survive and prosper for another billion years after humankind is gone.

Too bad for humankind. Our species is quickly running out of time. Extinction is looming ahead.

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pjstrohm on January 23, 2007 - 11:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hi David,

**Too bad for humankind. Our species is quickly running out of time. Extinction is looming ahead.

Be careful David.

1)You can think yourself into depression and end up throwing yourself in front of a coal train (joke, OK).

2) Since you feel all is hopeless, almost everyone will ignore you.

Paul

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dmathew1 on January 23, 2007 - 11:34pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hello Paul,

1)You can think yourself into depression and end up throwing yourself in front of a coal train (joke, OK).

I have an entire Universe and an entire planet and fifteen billion years to keep me happy in spite of the unfolding tragedy which is humankind. There is no cause for depression when the Universe is filled with so many beautiful things.

2) Since you feel all is hopeless, almost everyone will ignore you.

If I lied to you and you all listened to me that wouldn't exactly help the situation here on Earth that much, would it?

I will speak the truth and those who listen will hear.

David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1

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Dezakin on January 23, 2007 - 11:31pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Its like them religeous folks who go on about impending divine retribution. Doomsday cults are allways popular it seems, and we never run out of new sins to invent.

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