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This doesn't mean that there shouldnt be discounting. Economic growth being stunted now by 1% has absolutely enormous cost for instance over a century.
Economic growth being increased now by 1% has absolutely enormous cost for instance over a century.
I agree. Often our proposed solutions are the problem. Grow the economy so we can afford to protect the environment...etc.
Can we have economic growth at 5% globally per year while reducing our ecological footprint by 5% per year compounded over the next several decades?
With this sort of attitude we can't possibly have a rational conversation. We have diametrically opposed worldviews.
The answer to your question depends entirely on how you measure "economic growth".
(If by GDP, then the answer is no way. But GDP is a lousy measure of real progress. It measures activity only, without distinguishing between productive and destructive activity.)