Based on Khebab's HL plots, I predict that the big news for 2006 will be confirmed declines in both Russian and Saudi crude oil production

Didn't Russia prduction actually increase during '06? Or did you mean '07? And my 'gut' feeling is that SA production is currently linked to demand, not supply. I'm another person that feels there is an inherent error range in mathmatical models that are applied to complex issues such as a specfic resource peaking and going into decline. Obviously the Saudis could put an end to this speculation but that's not likely.

In the past, SA production has been all over the map as the Saudis have responded to changing market circumstances (Arab oil embargo, North Slope, Iran vs Iraq, Gulf War I) and I believe that this explains their present production.

My guess is that Russia will beat SA to the production tipping point.

Byron

(I meant 2007 in my first post.)

Based on Khebab's HL plots, Russia--at least in their mature basins anyway--is about 90% depleted, and Saudi Arabia is about 60% depleted. The recent rebound in Russian production has now made up for what was not produced after the Soviet collapse, so Russian production should start falling rapidly.

Saudi Arabia and Russia are the world's two largest oil exporters. Rounding out the top three exporters is Norway, which is about 70% depleted, based on the HL plot.

So, based on HL:

#1 Exporter is about 60% depleted;

#2 Exporter is about 90% depleted (mature basins anyway);

#3 Exporter is about 70% depleted.

Production doesn't work that way WT. As a Geochemist, you should know that. Its not like we in the US can stop producing oil for 1 year, then produce twice as much next year. misrepresentations like these are the kind of irresponsible posts that cause us to criticize your work with using HL.

And you say this because you are a world renowned expert, and you considered all the relevant geologic and production factors at play here - including perhaps Russia introducing better technology they did not have before, or perhaps that they were overproducing their fields, and a rest period allowed them to recover? Or perhaps they just drilled more wells - perhaps horizontally?

Sometimes Hothgor, you become so anxious to step on WT's serious efforts that you act like a little boy wetting his pants with excitement. Think about it for a bit.

Francois.

Your kidding me right? 'Resting' a field only prevents parts of the source rock from compressing and trapping oil. Resting a field does not increase the pressure of the field: it doesn't just magically refill itself, and if they do, then surely it means abotic oil exists! :rolls eyes:

Russia is not simply 'recovering' from their down production in the 80s and early 90s: they found new oil and are exploiting it. New technology is also present, and if you believe that is why their production has skyrocketed, then you must admit that new technology will undoubtedly help us get more oil out of the resource basin: you can not have it one way and deny the other after all.

I'm sorry, but Russia like so many other regions does not fit perfectly with the HL. The sooner we come to grips to that the better our understanding of peak oil will become.

I see what sa is doing as a better indication of peak than HL... 3x rigs in 2 years, planning for 7x, imo will want 10x before long; stated intent to revitalize fields long abandoned; no new fields even found, much less under development; reduced production as price surges to all time record and as russia grabs the #1 mantel; and, per their announcement, they are now down to <8.5Mb/d, substantially less than the production allowed under the new opec agreements.

As Simmons says, virtually all sa fields are very old, c1950, it cannot be surprising that these, and the world's other giants, are at the end of their productive lives. SA declining while russia is increasing, albeit slowly. IMO sa production tipped last year, russia production by 2010, and russian exports in 06. REgarding world production, some of freddy's punters have an accurate read on new projects, but imo are not properly considering accelerating declines in the worlds's largest fields.

SHortage of rigs may affect both timing of new projects and the ability to maintain production in old fields. Crashing tanker rates and soaring rig rates are pretty much what you would expect as the world hits, or passes, peak production.

...and as russia grabs the #1 mantel; and, per their announcement, they are now down to

But note that it's Russian exports that are down, not production. This is the point that WT has been beating everyone over the head with for a looonng time. And it's a point that I have never heard discussed in the main stream media. Kinda like getting KO'd in a boxing match where the left hook puts your lights out (exports fall) and then your head hits the mat, doing even more damage (production falls).

Has anyone attempted to do an HL of Hummer production as an indirect precursor to PO:)

Russia's year over year increases in production have been slowing dramatically. Before you start declining, your rate of increase drops.

So, all three of the top net exporters are showing lower exports, and two of the three are showing lower production. When Russian joins the lower production party is when it gets very interesting.

SOmething wrong with my past two posts... part of what I wrote was cut off.

I was saying that SA is now down to 8.5Mb/d, per their own statement, substantially less than their agreed opec cuts. And, they are raising prices, per today's drumbeat, apparently content to drive buyers towards other suppliers, so maybe the cuts are continuing.

Meanwhile, as Simmons says, all of their fields are very old, should not be surprising that they are nearing the end of their productive lives. And, this is true of (as WT says) all other giants. Russia, too, has very old fields and, like sa, is not bringing large new fields (excluding sakhalin - ng?) on line; their production is flattening, exports down, imo production to follow soon. IMO the problem with bottom up analyses is that analysts are assuming decline rates that have recently become too low.

Tanker rates crashing, rig rates soaring... pretty clear that tanker fleet owners expected more demand today, and rig fleet owners less... looks pretty peaky to me.

KSA currently has around 1500 active wells. Texas has around 50,000. Trust me, they will need to drill a LOT more before the two regions are similar.

Due to what seem to be site problems, my post was lost. Short story - I am not sure that comparing wells from 1920 or 1940 in Texas, many of which are still producing as stripper wells I assume, with the modern techniques used in Saudi Arabia, such as water injection / bottle brush, means that a count of wells is very relevant.

Horizontal/X-mas tree wells in KSA precludes an apples to apples comparison of the absolute number of rigs in KSA vs. Texas. I believe the relative change in the number of rigs is a more accurate take on the state of depletion in KSA.

Or perhaps they just want to reserve the rigs so they can't be used elsewhere. Neat! Less new oil found, less old oil extracted, more money for them.

Hmmm. During the dotcom heyday, many of the larger computer firms raided Univ of Waterloo grads who compained shortly thereafter that many of them were not positioned within those firms. The B team. It seemed like those with deep pockets were attempting to keep this (human) resource from the competition. When the dotbust occurred, they were let go. It was a great conspiracy theory at the time and jives with your proposed strategy...