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That whole quote taken from the conference was very confusing to me:
"In the United States, for example, 80% of the population lives in cities. Their buildings, transportation and urban infrastructure account for 80% of U.S. energy consumption, and 70% of that amount is determined by how and where Americans design their neighborhoods. Low-density development in the U.S. consumes 85% more energy, 70 times more water, 50 times more lumber and 40 times more land than higher-density development of the same square footage.
Note the first part "In the United States, for example, 80% of the population lives in cities. Their buildings, transportation and urban infrastructure account for 80% of U.S. energy consumption..." Now, as the quote goes on to say " Low-density development in the U.S. consumes 85% more energy", would this not mean that as a percent of their population, city dwellers would consume far less than the one to one match of their poplulation by percent that is the 80% of America living in the city would not consume the full 80% percent of America's energy? In fact, if less dense dwelling folks consumed 85% more, then most at least half of all energy would be consumed by the percent living in less densely poplulated areas (!?) (Unless of course much of the "less dense" areas are being incorporated into the "city", thus confusing an already confused count)
The whole advantage of massively increased population density as somehow being of advantage in reducing fossil fuel consumption needs a great deal more study. There are the Kunstler types who hated the suburban development pattern to the core of their being long before the "peak" issue was even thought of, and much of what passes for an "energy" discussion is actually an aesthetic preference debate. There are those who hate the city and those who hate the suburbs and rural living. In many cases their conjecture begins from the point of their hatred for these living arrangements and NOT from any factually demonstrated proof of energy consumption per se, given the wide variety of living/consumptive arrangements in both town and country.
Roger Conner Jr.
Remember, we are only one cubic mile from freedom.
Ultimately the best reason to live in a town or urban neighborhood is because it has a better quality of life, in the view of the people who choose to live there. Freedom of choice is what there should be more of.
Academic studies have shown that well designed neighborhoods with a minimum density (around 6-8 dwellings per acre) have substantially less VMT, gasoline use, and emissions. But that's just lagniappe for most people, assuming they have even heard about it.
I too would like to see the research support for the quote about buildings, transportation and urban infrastructure. The numbers imply much greater benefits for high-density development than I have seen in the literature.
I used to live in a city that had about 10 dwellings/acre. It covered 45 sq mi. Just about anything I wanted to buy was within 10 miles. I worked for the local transit authority and knew how to get pretty close to wherever I wanted to go without using a car. I rarely used the bus unless I was going where I had to pay to park. Therein lies a conservation incentive rarely talked about which is what I would call a parking space tax. People drive because there is no charge for parking at Walmart and the malls. The cost of parking along with available public transit is why car use is much lower in NYC. Add a $5 parking charge to every purchase at Walmart and people will take fewer trips but purchase more per trip. Use the money to eliminate bus fares and improve the service and watch gasoline use go down.
I now live at the edge of a small Iowa town 30 miles from the nearest Walmart. It currently costs me about $5 worth of gas to make the round trip a few times per month. The population density around here is 1/100th what it is in the city I used to live in. Public transit is a twice a day stop by a bus that goes between Des Moines and Kansas City. The 20% who do not live in urban areas must continue to use cars. We may find ways to use them less but we must still use them.
I agree that there needs to be more research on energy savings via Urban Form. When I have time I will contact the author.
However, I simply KNOW, by living, that I use far less than, say my brothers (Phoenix & Austin). I am unsure about my sister (Manhatten).
Pre-Katrina, New York City and New Orleans were statistically tied for the fewest miles driven per capita by residents (excluding suburbanites driving in). New Orleans was on a far more human scale and should serve as a model for the rest of the nation. I live in one of the best "Old Urbanism" neighborhoods in New Orleans (Lower Garden District). In many ways, the "creme de la creme" of fine, low energy living :-))
Best Hopes,
Alan