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Yeah, it's just my luck, I guess, that the village idiot is the first to respond.
They don't even make you take your early morning pills anymore? I see your sort on the street every day, and I do give quarters and bucks, but I don't want you in my home or office, because that's not pleasant, you have no manners or regard for others if you stop taking your medicine. I could deal with the drooling, it's the shouting that gets to me.
You're in luck that there's no editors on this site, boy.
But for scores of other people that's a big drag.
You have cost this site a lot of readers and posters by now, but no-one here seems to care about them. You can go on till there's no-one left here who matters to any serious discussion..
Hello HeIsSoFly,
That's a pretty ironic statement coming from a person named "HeISSoFly".
You need to describe your own life to me, "HeIsSoFly".
If I had that sort of impact upon this website I would have done the Peak Oil movement a big favor.
And what sort of serious discussions did you have in mind. I cannot envision any sort of serious conversation occurring between anyone and a person named "He Is So Fly".
David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1
HeIsSoFly:
I will grant that Mathews has a rather hopelessly grim view of the future, but I think this particular post was completely germane to the topic you brought up. You announced that warming is a fact and there is nothing we can do about it. Mathews confirmed what you said and then wrote about some of the possible responses to this problem. He then merely set forth the not very novel idea that nature bats last.
And then you assert that Mathews is an idiot and an insane, drooling homeless person. That seems like an overreaction on your part.
I would suggest that if people don't agree with Mathews that they refute his statements or arguments directly or they ignore him. He is an extreme doomer, but then, there are and have been other doomers on this site.
I like how certian viewpoints have been relegated to intellectual ghettos if they do not toe the happy, happy we-can-engineer-ourselves-out-of-anything cornucopians who dominate the site.
1939: Yes, he hates the NAZIs and accuses them of all sorts of atrocities, but he is a pessimist. I prefer to belief that the films of all those happy jews are true!
1956: Of course the Potemkin village is representative of Soviet society! Don't be so negative!
2000: Global warming? That just means we all get to be warm in the winter. No big deal. Besides, we got plenty of airconditioners. Don't be a party-pooper!
2007: Don't listen to them, they are "doomers." We got technology, dude!!
Yup, nothing like realism coated with a creamy, sweet coating of wishful thinking and techno-fantasy.
He is an extreme doomer, but then, there are and have been other doomers on this site
He is worse than a doomer. A doomer is convinced that the coming situation is going to be very bad, and nothing can stop it. Dave is eagerly awaiting the coming bad situation, and is cheering it on. I bet he leaves his car running all night to try and speed up the end of the world.
Anybody that is happy at the thought of the death of billions of people is seriously messed up.
He is a Genophobe.
Hello enviro attny,
Am I the one cheering on this situation?
Don't you imagine that the oil, auto & power corporations bear some responsibility for the consequences of their extremely profitable behavior?
I advocate humankind ceasing all of these activities which are destroying the Earth. If I wanted billions of humans to die, I would invest in the oil industry and trade oil futures. Profiting from the crimes and pollutions of the oil industry seems like a reprehensible, evil activity to me.
And, no, I do not leave my car running all night nor leave my lights on when not in the room nor use the air conditioner/heater except when absolutely necessary nor eat any more than enough to keep my body running.
I am not in favor of anyone dying, but I know that billions of humans are already fated to die because of the crimes against Nature committed by humankind.
But what of those who seek to profit from the deaths of billions?
David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1
What astonishes me most about Matthews is his ability to type so fast. Kind of reminds me of when my daughters were toddlers. Very prolific at speaking many words per minute for hours on end but rarely saying anything profound.
Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and prove it. One of my wife's favorite sayings and who am I to disagree.
Hello Thomas,
I say whatever is on my mind. I don't care whether the readers consider the statements profound or not.
The Oil Drum is not a forum devoted to profound thoughts. Those seeking profundity should visit websites devoted to philosophy or religion.
The Oil Drum is an oil industry website which is especially addicted to mathematical models, graphs and charts describing oil production statistics both historical and speculative. There is nothing especially profound in all of these charts and graphs. That's why the arguments here always follow essentially the same form and ultimately reach the same conclusion.
I have followed discussions on The Oil Drum for over a year and can say for certain that nothing whatsoever profound was ever expressed in these discussions. Fortunately for me, I visit a diverse group of websites in order to investigate Homo sapiens from every available angle of thought, word, and action.
When I need a profound thought, I seek out the Scriptures:
"Behold, my eye has seen all this, my ear has heard and understood it. What you know, I also know; I am not inferior to you.
"But I would speak to the Almighty, and I desire to argue with God.
"But you smear with lies; you are all worthless physicians.
"O that you would be completely silent, and that it would become your wisdom!"
(Proverbs 13:1-5)
David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1
Your response confirms my point. You out worded me 5:1 and even unneccesarily repeated my comment while adding a Bible passage.
I have encountered many profound statements on the Drum such as very informative postings explaining the science and engineering aspects of our energy challenges. I found the Cubic Mile of Oil concept to be a profound image about the magnitude of oil use. Engineer-Poet's postings with all the mathematical backing he brings to his comments are very profound. The concept of Energy Return on Energy Invested is an extremely profound concept that must be taught to the body politic so good public policy can be realized. As for my comments, most of what I post are just the musings of a lunatic. At least that's what my psychiatrist says.
To pick a nit, that's not Proverbs it is Book of Job
I suggest simply not responding to him on this issue today. Even I don't want him to waste 'your' real estate space with his nut-job outlook. And don't worry dmathew1, we all know your cryptic response of 'I don't care what you say, na na, boo boo' is incoming.
Hello Hothgor,
I really do care about you, Hothgor, I do.
David Mathews
http://www.geocities.com/dmathew1
I do not understand your problems with Dave. He is entitled to his opinion and in my view many times it is spot on.
Cherenkov and tstreet hit it on the nose. Dave's comments were appropriate to the post and he is entitled to his opinion.
I found his "particle" post to be interesting. I have no idea whether it is doable or not, but it is interesting. So why all the flack? Does that make me a nut because I found it interesting?
Anyone with a negative view of the future does seem to get relegated to the nut-pile--no matter that a negative outcome for humanity is certainly possible. Most of us like to think it will be otherwise, but there are no guarantees and we won't know until we get there. That's why politicians never tell the truth if it is bad news--they know it will ensure they won't get re-elected because people never want to hear the truth if it is bad news. Everything must be sugar-coated.
Personally, I think we will blow ourselves to smithereens in resource wars long before climate change or peak oil get us. It has been the human condition throughout the ages to "covet" thy neighbors resources. But along the way we will have other painful adjustments to the problems coming down the pike.
I don't care for the religious parts, but then I don't care for it when it comes from our president and self-righteous congress-critters either. So, I've learned to tune them out when they start down that path. If his posts bother you that much, don't read them and don't respond.
not that i agree with all of dmathew's points.
though to be frank, he has not once cussed out, called anyone else names, or otherwise derided people who reply to him. no matter how much they do it to him.. so please grow up and act like a adult, you might not like what he posts but that gives you no right to act like you have and so many others.
sure you can disagree and i hope have a nice rational discussion over it. though you do realize by posting a post like this you are the troll not him.