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192 comments on DrumBeat: February 19, 2007

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GreenMan on February 19, 2007 - 1:18pm

The Great Lakes vary in level by a few feet over a span of decades (I grew up in Michigan). They are hundreds of feet above sea level, so direct impacts of sea level change should be minimal. There would be some amount of thermal expansion, but that might only be a millimeter or two. Changes in precipitation patterns could have a much larger affect.

As to the time dimension, science is a very conservative field. Nobody wants to risk his/her career on being the first one to predict a 50 foot sea level rise by 2050. So the observed pattern is that someone goes out on a limb and predicts a tiny rise over a century, then some other people agree, then someone says it might be an inch or two more, then someone else publishes a paper saying that it might happen by 2040, etc. The concensus advances and converges over time.

Plus, climate scientists are also people who live on this Earth, and this stuff scares the crap out of them.

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Will on February 19, 2007 - 1:31pm

Plus, climate scientists are also people who live on this Earth, and this stuff scares the crap out of them.

That's good. It scares the sh*t out of me. I have two children and, tough as it is, I've got them reading about P.O., about the GHG's. They are not happy campers. But somehow, someway, we've got to turn this beast around. Eating low on the food chain and peddling bicycles is good for the soul, (we are soulful) but it's not going to be enough. We've got to kick effort into gear.

By-the-by... thanks for that script. You rocked'em yesterday.

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stalkylittleboy on February 19, 2007 - 2:53pm

Hi, GreenMan. I have been hacking on your script; I hope you don't mind. You can find my version at http://stalkylittleboy.com/todban.user.js - please feel free to incorporate as many or few of the changes into your branch as you'd like. Changes are

Minor bug fix: Cancel on Ban and Unban works.
Efficiency: the list of hidden threads is an object, not an array; testing is (threadHref in hiddenThreads) instead of iteration
Increased modularity, for easier reading.

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Khebab on February 20, 2007 - 9:25am

I have been hacking on yours too!

http://graphoilogy.googlepages.com/todban.user.js

Changes:
* function "Show users" that open a new window containing a table with the list of posters along with their number of posts and their ban status.
* added TOD:Europe and TOD:Canada

Note: I'am not sure the "Manage Posts" function in the GreaseMonkey plugin is working properly. I suggest you to first remove the script and then restart Firefox before installing the new one.