As gas is rising weekly, from $1.97 per gallon just a few weeks ago, to $2.29, what do you see as the tipping point? $3.50 per gallon?

When gas was over $3 per gallon, a small retail store that my sister worked at was getting ready to close, I saw more people hitchhiking than since the 1970s and many people I know are now making less money than five years ago, a computer consultant used to earn $70 per hour now is lucky to get $35 per hour. A friend who worked at HSBC for three years took a pay cut six months ago and was just laid off last week. And according to a woman on Financial Sense website, looks as if the gulf waters are warm already and she predicts at least two hurricanes to hit the oil infrastructure.

SanD: Here in Toronto we are as high as $3.51 US and there is absolutely no slowdown in demand for gasoline. During Kartrina we hit $4.00 US without a slowdown in demand.

I've said it before. It's a bit silly to look for a Magic Round Number, the world is far too diverse for that. Your computer consultant no doubt dislikes the pay cut, but with a wage of $35/hour, gasoline at $20/gallon, maybe even $40, would likely be preferable to no gasoline and no job, or only a minimum-wage job at the corner convenience store. Actually, my crystal ball goes fully opaque long before that kind of price is reached, making it really a bit pointless to speculate what the world would look like by the time your consultant was priced out of the gasoline market.

What is far more likely to ruin your consultant is a rationing scheme introduced by demagoguing politicians, which might well make your consultant unable to work, as he/she probably has to drive a lot. This is an important point that people who demand price controls choose to forget - if they can't get the gasoline, many of them will be earning close to $0/hour. Then again, under rationing, people would become outlaws and pay whatever it took: in the USA at the end of World War II - that time of supposed patriotic solidarity that foolish old folks like to reminisce about so gushingly and dishonestly - half of all the gasoline was sold under the table.

Now, at very low wages it's trickier. But there's still no hard, fast, bright line if the alternative is earning $0/hour. On the other hand, in populated areas, there's a minimum-wage job or three on practically every corner, and those jobs turn over many times a year. So it's usually not truly necessary to drive a long way. Indeed, the real problem might not be gasoline, so much as the existence of the job itself. Would demand hold up for the often outrageously overpriced - and therefore rather discretionary - goods and services typically provided by those corner businesses?

I don't believe you will see rationing this time. As this is end game, not tide me over, those that can still pay, will, those that can't enter the era of post-oil. As the poor consume very little, there will be no significant demand destruction. Those that can still afford it will burn every drop they can get.

I suppose you could use rationing a bit differently, although it might be a bit more tricky to implement. What I mean is that..
- You get a small, limited amout of gas for a low price every week/month/whatever
- If you need more than that it will cost you a LOT more

There are also such extreme measures available such as sleeping either at or near your work place and returning home only on weekends. Or perhaps the whole system could be changed so that you work for a week or 2 and then have a full week of 'freedom'.

If you are paying an extra $20 to $30 a week for gas means $20 to $30 less for other things. Getting back and forth to work and for essential shopping is a high priority for most families. Easier to skip going to the movies than skip going to the gas station. Purchases for durable goods can be delayed until either prices drop or income rises. And durable goods purchases have gone down.

I have a sailboat on lake Erie. Most of the power boats in the area I sail are the larger cabin cruisers. These boats use lots and lots of fuel. The boat that was in the slip beside me last year had a 400L fuel tank I believe. My sail boat only has a small outboard motor. That's enough to get me in and out of the marina. What I have noticed was last year and the end of 2005 their was fewer power boats out on the water. Most of them just kept them tied up in the marina. Actually it was kind of nice, less noise, less large wakes, and less trafic in and out of the marina.

What is different this time around (gasoline prices rising) is that the backdrop of what is going on with the economy.

There are soooo many layoffs going on right now...and it is not just GM and Ford. My company (retail), Sprint, computer companies, IT companies...everyone is triming the fat off their staffs and costs. This has been going on at a lower level for the last two years, but the steamroller of layoffs is picking up amazing steam.

Companies are seeing the writing on the wall and know that if they don't cut all costs quickly, the bottom line at the end of the year will be horrible. Remember, retail companies measure their yearly success not only by sales profits but operating costs. Profits are meager to flat right now. Operating costs have skyrocketed.

Now, you add in the latest developments of the global stock market and increasing petroleum product costs and ask this question again.

What gasoline price is going to begin to hurt the consumer? Well, if you were a consumer last year with a job and some savings/retirement and this year, you are not, that magical price that will hurt you is much lower than it was.

Well $3 a gallon switched control of the US Congress, so there's definitely some movement at that price.

This winter I saw more commuter biking going on, and I'm talking about in the dark, on icy and snowy roads, and with a minus zero wind chill. These people are heroes in my mind. Were they doing it because they are car-free, or saving gas money, or trying to reduce their carbon footprint? I don't know. Also, a local restaurant owner recently said that when gas prices peaked last year, his restaurant was empty (moderately priced family restaurant). I think a lot starts happening at $3/gal gas. Our local food bank needs are much higher than ever, too. People keep driving, and then get food however they can. Now, the price of food is also going up...

a computer consultant used to earn $70 per hour now is lucky to get $35 per hour.

I wrote windows device drivers between 1992 t0 2002.

Let's see if litgation may prove more profitable?

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