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Thanks Robert, that does clarify it quite a bit. And indeed, the EPA ruling is stunning in its political audacity. So much for Environmental Protection....
A somewhat related question: When I try to explain to people about what is going on in the oil patch (potential peak, potential export problems, gas is really cheap, etc), the response is always that I'm wrong and it's just Big Oil gouging us. It really seems to gear up this time of year as the gas price goes up. How would you recommend responding to these people? Or is it pointless? It seems that some of them so WANT to believe this that they won't consider any data points.
Cheryl
When I try to explain to people about what is going on in the oil patch (potential peak, potential export problems, gas is really cheap, etc), the response is always that I'm wrong and it's just Big Oil gouging us. It really seems to gear up this time of year as the gas price goes up. How would you recommend responding to these people? Or is it pointless?
It is almost pointless, but I try anyway. If people think that high oil prices are all about Big Oil gouging them, they are never going to understand the problem we face. They will point fingers at Big Oil until they realize that there’s more to it than meets the eye.
So, the question I always ask someone who says something like this are: 1). What is gouging? Please define. 2). How much money should a company be allowed to make? 3). Should it depend on the size of the company? 4). Do you think a major oil company has a higher risk profile than a major software company? 5). Did you know that they oil company earns on average under a dime per dollar of sales, while the software company earns almost $0.30 per dollar of sales? 6). Did you know that oil company profits would plunge if we all drove 10% less?
Those are the kinds of questions I use to frame the discussion. Ask them if they believe demand increases in the summer. Then, ask what they think would happen if prices did not go up as demand increased. There is a limit to how much we can crank up production. This can help them understand a little bit about the supply and demand pictures, and then you can explain that other things affect supply and demand, and it isn’t just a summer issue. Next, you may be ready to hit them with oil depletion and ask them what they think is going to happen when supply starts going down while demand is still rising.
But they have to get past “It’s all an oil company conspiracy” and start understanding the effects of supply and demand.
Thanks Robert, those are excellent responses.
I've known for some time that the profit margins for big oil are very low compared to most big businesses, but for some reason people expect big oil to give their product away rather than profit from it as other companies do.
The risks that oil producers face are also some of the biggest: From drilling expensive dry holes, to sabotage, to equipment failures/replacements, to mother nature's wrath, to explosions and fires...
There is just no comparison to a company that pushes paper for a profit, but the public, as a whole, doesn't seem to get it. It's a very weird mindset. They complain more about the price of gasoline, which isn't essential to life itself, than they do about the price of food. Go figure.
This layperson appreciated the presentation.
It may be hard for ADHD afflicted consumers to consider their own demand, let alone omnipresent supply constraints.
How would you recommend responding to these people? Or is it pointless?
I just jumped over to the Digg thread where this article is being discussed. Look at that, and fear for what we are up against. A sampling of comments:
Menthol Hydrate? Is it any wonder that educating people on energy is such an uphill struggle? This the mindset of the majority of Americans, and our politicians are trying to pander to this sort of nonsense. That's why our energy policy is so screwed up. The one comment just typified the average person: I didn't read the article, but I am going to share my uninformed opinion anyway.
Robert,
Thanks so much for posting the article...very interesting, and presented in a format that a layman(me) could understand. Thanks also for posting the responses on Digg...another reason I believe that we will not do what's necessary until it's too late.