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I think you might be referring to this article . However the 20% of US supply would not come about until 2030
. However since the initial intent was that we would get some of the LNG from Shtokman, and this has now, likely, just been set aside for European use, our optimistic assumptions that we will get significant amounts from Russia may, in the end, turn out to be only the sort of happy ending that one sees in movies
Heading Out, you say...
"our optimistic assumptions that we will get significant amounts from Russia may, in the end, turn out to be only the sort of happy ending that one sees in movies"
Help me out on this one, how would the U.S. becoming dependent on Russia for it's heat and power be a happy ending?
This is the same problem I have with the Saudi peaking issue, in which we hope and pray that Saudi Arabia is not near peak, but can provide lots and lots more oil for decades to come! Oh happy day.....but how does it help us to be bled to death decade after decade, buying crude oil, and soon, natural gas, from nations that we will call, and this is putting it politely....of "questionable" affection for the U.S. and the Western way of life we know and love?
This devotion to oil at any and all costs, and willingness to accept any level of slavery to avoid change is starting to border on a cultural disorder.
Roger Conner Jr.
Remember, we are only one cubic mile from freedom
Roger,
Your question (how does it help us to be bled to death decade after decade, buying crude oil and natural gas from nations that we will call of "questionable" affection for the U.S. and the Western way of life) is an excellent one.
The question of how the US can live without imports of foreign oil and gas is more complex though....
Of course, those of us that spend time on this (and other) sites know a lot of partial answers, and we also know that the sum of the parts of the partial answers goes a long way in providing the total answer.
However, the great unanswered question remains: which politician or political body has the guts (stupidity?) to try to sell these solutions to the American people, and how are they going to do it?
Roger - at the end of the movie "Oil Storm" (my reference through the click) the short term supplies of the US, devastated by a hurricane in the Gulf and a terrorist attack on Ras Tanura, are reassured by a tanker fleet bringing oil from Russia. Given the devastation that the oil shortage was portrayed as causing (and the sorts of problems we had back in the 70's), the problems were assumed resolved by a couple of tankers arriving - hiding any longer term issues.
As we wrote at the time the movie came out this was very unrealistic, but the question that I was sort of asking was - if not Russia, then who? Getting 10% or so of our supply from them at least gives us more time for alternate sources to be brought up to speed. If, as most of us anticipate, we have a whole lot less than 20 years (the Hirsch period) then we are going to need just about everything we can bring along, and if this includes the Russians then that gets us some more breathing room.