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Interesting article Nate.
Personally i heard of PO in august 2004, when i sat in my car listening to a radiointervju with Professor Kjell Aleklett, where he said that GW would not be a problem due to hydrocarbons because they were running out.
Immideatly when i came home, i GOOGLED ASPO, and surfed to other PO links. I had no problems to grasp the facts and had no initial denial behaviour. Then i have followed the subject daily since then, and i also started personal PO preps that 2004 fall.
By what i have read here in TOD and other places, i am convinced that PO is NOW.
What is very weird, is that it seems that i am very lonely in this belief of PO. Relatives that i talk to do not believe me, and propably think that i am some kind of doomer.
It is like living in a paralell universe with other people, it is a somewhat strange feeling. No one i know of is doing any preps, or for that matter has heard of PO(other than from me, whom they seem not to believe), and why should they know of PO, or believe in what i am saying, since there is nothing about it in mainstream media?
Swede, yes, but what is the decline rate? ASPO's latest graphs show oil + gas down 40% by 2050, that is less than 1% a year (coal extraction in 2050 is predicted to be no less than today). The latest meme on climate change calls for 80% reduction in CO2 by 2050 or approx 2% per year. So, climate change will not be mitigated by peak carbon; we need to reduce even faster than declining supplies!
Yes you could be right JN2
But on the other hand, there is some scientists that somewhat dismiss this carbonhydrate burning as a main reason for GW. It could be that 95% of GW is caused by solarheating, cosmic rays and so on. We have had theese climat changes back in history.
Anyway we can not do anything to mitigate the climat change, and pretty much nothing to for example get China to burn less coal.
I think we are doomed to a climatchange and a die-off. The only thing that we can do is to personally prepare as best we can.
Best Kenneth
Hi Swede,
that is also my experience. Peoples inertia is just staggering. I also daily try to convince smokers to stop smoking: success rate may be 20-30%. Mostly they stop if it is already to late i.e. lung cancer, larynx cancer, etc. It is puzzling but seems to be related to the i.q..
But concerning PO also very bright persons don`t seem to "get it".
Well, I guess I will continue to prepare though I haven`t done much yet besides self defense, gaining knowlegde, driving a SMART car and simplifying my life in general.
Best regards J. Daehn