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Darwinian on April 2, 2007 - 4:57pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Okay Hummingbird, Click on “Start”, then click on “Control Panel”, then click on “Display” then click on “Settings”, then under “Screen Resolutions” move the arrow to the right toward “More”. 1280 by 960 pixels will do it. Then click on "OK". Then you will see the whole graph.

Ron Patterson

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HeIsSoFly on April 2, 2007 - 5:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

On Bill Gates machines perhaps.

Things don't work everywhere just because they work in one spot.

The only way to solve it is making every picture wider than 500 pixels a clickable hotspot. There is no other solution.

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Darwinian on April 2, 2007 - 5:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

What! Do you mean to tell me that there is something that the almighty Apple cannot do. The Apple cannot change the screen resolution? I am shocked, shocked I tell you!

Well there is only one way to correct that problem. If the apple cannot change the screen resolution then switch to someone who can. Or write to Steve Jobs and beg him to correct this problem. If he knew that the PC can do something that the Apple cannot do, then I am sure he would turn heaven and earth until he corrected the problem.

However I am not convince you are correct HeIsSoFly. I was not joking, I am shocked that there is something tha PC can do that the Apple cannot. I must be convinced that this is the case. Do we have an Apple expert on board?

Ron Patterson

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HeIsSoFly on April 2, 2007 - 5:47pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Do we have an Apple expert on board?

Yeah, me.

You know, Ron, we Apple people, unlike the rest, find it silly to have to click 10 times on all kinds of features, run twice around the block and sing the national anthem doing two 180 twirls on one leg, just to see a picture.

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Darwinian on April 2, 2007 - 6:25pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Okay Mister Apple Expert, are you saying Apple cannot change the screen resolution in order to view a wider document than your current resolution premits. Wow! If that is the case then Apple has a very serious problem. Again, you should impose upon Steve Jobs and the folks at apple to correct this very serious problem Apple has.

Fortunately us PC users do not have that problem. We have flexability! Yeah! We can change the screen resoultion in order to view any document that is transmitted.

You do not have that ability? Pity!

Ron Patterson

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graywulffe on April 2, 2007 - 6:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Ron, calm down a tad, ok? :o)

Of course screen res on a Mac can be changed. But most of us Mac users would prefer a method that's simpler.

I find that I can ctrl-click on the above images, which gives me a little menu of options, and have the graphics displayed in a new window in my browser. This gets rid of those artificial boundaries that the TOD display forces upon us readers and posters, and I can see the whole graphic. Nice and simple, and no screen res change required.

-best,

Wolf, half-baked Mac "expert" and Mac user for 15 years

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Darwinian on April 2, 2007 - 6:51pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Greywulffe, I am totally calm. I think this is halarious. I am laughing my ass off. It turns out that a Mac can view the graphs posted above, the whole damn graphs no less. I suspected all along that this was the case.

So there is no need for anyone to do anything except become more computer literate. And that goes for Mac users as well as PC useres.

Thanks again Graywulffe.

Ron Patterson

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HeIsSoFly on April 2, 2007 - 7:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Ron,

Feeling right gets you too excited, too much of a little boy with much to prove. You're just overboard, and you know too little, but you'll never admit that. So be it.

I never said it couldn't be done. I merely indicated that there are better, simpler ways. As Leanan too says below, it should be solved at input, not output.

"IF you have this machine, IF you run this sytem, IF you are using this software, do this that and that," there's too many possible variables. 90% of Mac users don't know they can control-click, because they never have to.

Any idea how much all these huge pics piss off people with dial-up connections?
Totally unneccesary.

BTB: I worked as a developer of cross-platform interactive media for 10 years. Worked around a few issues. And you should lose that derogatory tone, it's nothing to be proud of.

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Darwinian on April 2, 2007 - 9:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

HeIsSoFly, let me remind you that it was you who started bitching about non "Bill Gates" users not being able to easily read the full graphs. I was simply trying to tell PC users how they could easily view the total graphs with about ten seconds of effort devoted to change the screen resolution of their displays. I would have had absolutely no further input had not you piped in with your bitching about "Bill Gates" software.

Ten seconds of effort is not too much to ask of anyone if they truly wish to view the graphs. And this goes for Mac usere as well as PC users. And after PC users make that simple change, it lasts forever. The next time that a graph is posted, they will need to do nothing because they made the changes permenant.

I think my advice should be viewed as constructive. I had no idea that it would not be so simple for Mac users, and for that I truly apologize. So please simply see my advice as only applying to PC users and leave it at that. And as far as dial up connections are concerned, once the screen resolution is changed, it will last forever, or until changed. Dial up connectors should never get pissed off again because every time a graph is posted, from this time forward, they should be able to view the entire graph, first time, every time.

And why do you bring up dial up users at all. After all, when you change the screen resolution it does not require a reloading of the page at all. It simply changes the screen resolution of what you have already loaded. Methinks you are just looking for something to bitch about HeIsSoFly.

Ron Patterson

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JustZisGuy on April 3, 2007 - 12:25am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The problem is that posting large images means everyone - whether they want to read the comments or not - has to download far more data than is reasonable. This is true regardless of your screen resolution. Making smaller images that are "clickable" links to large images solves that problem, as well as making it by default easy for just about anyone to see enough detail in the original post.

The way it is now is just annoying, with the right edge chopped off (due to the huge margin on the web page) on every graph if your browser is set to a width that is in a range that most people have available to them - anything under 1200 pixels, it looks like. Personally, I have a screen that is 1920 pixels wide, so I can just resize the window. 2 seconds, one click&drag - on a Mac or PC or pretty much anything using any graphical user interface written in the last 20 years. Your advice is useless to someone who has a screen with a maximum resolution 1024 pixels wide, now, isn't it?

(I'm old enough to remember screens with maximum resolution 320 pixels wide... heck, I'm old enough to have used a printing terminal with acoustic coupler modem at 110 bits per second. Imagine downloading just one of those graphs - 170792 bytes - at about 11 bytes per second!)

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Durandal on April 3, 2007 - 10:49am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Just use FireFox.. Right-click on the image, then click "View Image" The image then opens up, consuming the entire browser window, and auto-scales to be the size of the window. Your cursor then becomes a magnifying glass, and you can zoom in or out. When you're done, just hit the back button, and it takes you back to the page you were on, at the place you were at. (You don't have to scroll back to find where you originally were.)

The solution works for Windows or Mac OS X. (I use both systems. MSIE is simply too dangerous to use, no matter what computer you're on.)

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sf on April 2, 2007 - 6:16pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Or open a microsoft word window. Set margins to the minimum on your blank document. Then select, copy and paste the post. If the picture is still too wide, right cliclick, select format picture, size and reduce to 7 inches. Or change layout to landscape.

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hummingbird on April 3, 2007 - 6:51am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks Darwinian. I appreciate the specific instructions.

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