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souperman2 on April 13, 2007 - 11:29am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

WT - First off I really appreciate your message. It is what I have been doing and talking about for 5+ years.
Also you might concider central willamette valley Oregon for your relocation, we got the ELP thing going on here.

Something very important to add to the mix.

Steorn is an industrial design / product development firm in Ireland. Best known for their tech solutions in ATM, magnetic strip card reading devices, etc. Highly successful with serious revenue streams from their patents.

They have developed a device that generates move electricity than it consumes, (this is where most people invariably dismiss the notion mumbling something about second law, thermodynamics, yada yada).

There are several reasons I have for believing they are real;

They are well respected and stand to loose millions in development contracts if it is a hoax.

They are not switching or working the magnet, in other words stressing it or relying simply on repel / attract, (that kind. They are doing something involving circumnavigating the poles of the magnetic field, as best I can understand it.

They are currently under a review process by a large group of scientist around the globe as they understand that they are challenging the laws of physics, this also serves to rapidly expose the tech far and wide to avoid repression and monopolization. Providing free to third world Countries.

It is scalable from cell phone power to home generation.

This is real and needs to be factored into all of our considerations in going forward.

I have no clue what it will take to get one in the basement of each house, under the hood of each SUV but I do know that that is what is going to be attempted.

This is either the most exciting development ever or the worst thing that could happen right now. For the life of me I can’t decide which.

They have made a new announcement today. Very interesting!!!

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/validation/

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dVincent on April 13, 2007 - 11:50am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Westexas-
Thank you for sharing your expertise, and your clear message. I've made some adjustments that have already helped, and plan to getting more community proactive.
If a series of miracles keeps PO from becoming a problem, I'll still be living a higher quality life. Thanks again.

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marcosdumay on April 13, 2007 - 4:36pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Well, whatever company it is, second law of thermodynamics is more respectfull. At least, it've never failed on anybody for centuries... What is much more than any company can achieve.

I'll belive when it becomes a huge company, and its owner very rich, and yada yada :)

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treeman on April 13, 2007 - 5:01pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

While I am extremely sceptical about the liklihood of this free energy being real, the end result, were it to be true, would be catastophic. Think reindeer, petri dishes, etc. We would not be able to stop our unquenchable consumption and we would find another 500 reasons to perish.

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RBM on April 13, 2007 - 8:22pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yes, treeman it could be catastophic.

Ahavah B.'s down thread post is a prime example of why energy from the vacuum is not a panacea. There is still a problem – people.

Where IS that 'Theory of Everything' ?

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andrews416 on April 13, 2007 - 6:37pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

souperman, your comment on ELP might find a better home under Robert Rapier's article on TDL...the again,m aybe I've been eating too much alphabet soup!

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MetaMeme on April 14, 2007 - 4:24pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

If this sytem works then they would have built a "zero fuel car" or an "ever-burning lightbulb" or some other very persuasive "instant" demo.

The fact that they haven't done this probably means that it only (seems to) work on a very small hard-to-measure scale.

In other words they are getting just a few (possibly) excess microwatts out of a load of whirring magnets etc.

If I had a free-energy device I would mortgage the house and build an aeroplane to fly to the USA and back again without landing. The world's corporations & governments would queue at your door after such a demo.

This reminds me of that so-called anti-gravity machine based on whirring gyroscopes. The box shook so much that it was not clear if it weighed less then usual or not. See: http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/gyroag.htm

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The Chimp Who Can Drive on April 15, 2007 - 7:58pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

they stand to loose millions in development contracts if it is a hoax.

Steorn was an e-commerce marketing group. this is likely a stunt of theirs so they can draw in future clients. "hey look at the publicity we got for the free energy thing."

The clients in the future don't have to disclose that they're working with STeorn once the "Free energy" jig is up so any loss in reputation will have no effect on their business prospects. What they will have is proof that they are capable of generating MASSIVE buzz . . ..

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