Just to make sure I do not accidently offend, when I used the term "sustainable" I was not referring to the work of Engineer Poet, but I was being deeply ironic regarding the ultra primitive version of it as described by the "deep green" or "neo-primitivist" camp.

I am still trying to digest the math and the ideas in what Engineer Poet calls "this monster". I admire the line of thinking very much, and when I first studied it, I of course began to think of the possibility of confluence with some of the ultra efficient "electric" based grid based work I was describing.

I hope Aniya checks it out, it as an eye opening line of thinking, and begins to lay down a possible road forward.

Roger Conner Jr
Remember, we are only one cubic mile from freedom