"Theoretically" you are right. They lend. But with an implosion they don't get paid back at all. People are already going into default. Deflation would mean economic implosion -- far more would default.

Next, the elite lends, but not their own money. They lend the middle class's money, their pensions, college savings, etc. You don't get into the elite lending your own money -- no, no, no.

Therefore the elite borrows, borrows from us. Now I said the proletariat goes into default. But not like the elite goes into default. The elite goes into default by eliminating our pensions, by running up massive govrnmental debts that will be the excuse for tearing up all contracts with the common folk. The only contracts that aren't torn up are the tax reductions for the very wealthy. The military-industrial complex doesn't need a contract -- it's implied.

The elite can play the world's assets, unlike you and me. That's what globalization is really all about -- not trade so much as free movement of capital. That, by the way, is why the Soviet empire crumbled peacefully. The Soviet elite could not walk away from their rust belt -- it wasn't capital. They envied the Western elites. They thought they would be better off with capital. That they were outmaneuvered is another story.

This is a fascinating thread, but perhaps we should simplify it and take it a step further?

Since there is wisdom in the collective, why not do a simple poll?

"Do you think PO will result in"

a) high inflation/stagflation
b) little meaningful change
c) deflation

d) total chaos