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I heard a story on CNN this morning about a collaboration between Tyson Foods and Conoco-Phillips. Essentially a method to convert animal fat into synthetic diesel that can be refined and shipped via pipeline.
They mentioned that there was something like 300 million (pounds??) of animal fat per year in the U.S., and that some fraction of this would be refined.
I was half asleep when the story was on, so the details may be a little off. I tried going to Conoco's and Tyson's website to look for press releases, but came up empty. I don't know the original source for the story, but I will look around some more to see if I can find it.
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news...
ConocoPhillips and Tyson Foods Announce Strategic Alliance To Produce Next Generation Renewable Diesel Fuel
"much as 175 million gallons per year of renewable diesel"
Rick
And from another source:
http://blogs.dmregister.com/?p=5302#comment-67181
This week’s announcement by ConocoPhillips of a $22.5 M contract with Iowa State is significicant not only because of the magnitude of the grant, but also because of the company’s statement that it is interested in pursuing pyrolysis as a biomass conversion technology. To date, most of the action and attention in the biofuel world has been focused on the enzymatic breakdown of cellulosics to sugars that are then fermented into alcohol. Although much progress has been made over the years, the “sugar platform” remains costly and still has some technical barriers to overcome before it will become economically feasible. Pyrolysis offers another alternative that has several advantages.
Hmm... I wonder where they got this idea from =]
Nice catch Eric - good to see you're still around.
Ahh, here it is:
http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/news_releases/2007+News+Releases/...
Ugh. They just *had* to say thermal depolymerization, didn't they. Here we go again :-)....
A big difference is these are not a couple of start-ups. These are large corporations with expertise in the entire process. This joint venture also has a big customer locked in which already has a large distribution system. It is very good that one of the major oil companies is looking at feedstocks other than fossils.
What about human fat? You seem to have plenty of it in USA.
Hehe...
I think someone else already mentioned something similar -
Soylent Diesel.
Yes, until we experience peak fat, we should not be worrying.
Coming soon: Soylent Diesel.
Someone should remake Soylent green and replace everything that had to do with food in the movie with its petroleum equivalent. It would seem a little too plausible.
Hey! I coined it here a few days ago - Soylent Sour. You have to deal with the sulfur in cystine/cysteine, after all.
I like Jon Stewart's idea a while ago when he had Al Gore on his show. He said we should just hook up a hose from our stomachs to the engine and drive around on our own fat. Stop by for a few drive-through donuts and Happy Motoring!
Skinny Americans: now that would be a real change ...
;-)
lipodiesel ?
The animal fat we should be converting typically rides in an SUV to the drugstore that is half a mile away.
Yeah the comment i made up the tread was too easy, i simply could´nt resist it though it was a little mean to the US population.
BTW the nazis made soap from koncentrationcamp prisoners fat.
The nazis did a lot of things, but this particular one is an urban legend.
Yes i know, but why spoil a good urban legend??
"The nazis did a lot of things, but this particular one is an urban legend."
If you've ever been served in Germany, you know that the old Nazi military compounds were reused by us Americans. Sorry fellas, its not an urban legend, this stuff is still floating around.
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Looks like the urban legend explanation wins.
not true.