The MSNBC article didn't mention the Honda hybrids, which use the electric drive to enhance acceleration. In that sense, Honda is trying to sell their hybrids as competitive within current driving styles, while Toyota is going for the green status symbol.

Zero to 60 in ten seconds. Top speed 105. How lame.

Still, since I have the luxury of walking to work, and pretty much anywhere I care to go, I can't comprehend numbers like that.

I'm looking for a Masaratti Hybrid for those few car trips I take: Zero to 60 in 5 seconds -- now that is great! Much easier to kill dogs and kids and deer. Top speed 230mph. That will really cover the ground to Grandma's house at Thanksgiving. Even with bumper to bumper six lane traffic, I'll get there 10 minutes earlier. And Grandma will be so pleased that I beat my brother that she will cut him out of the will, and I'll take home all the cookies.

Never: Top speed of 105 is so lame. So what if the maximum legal speed in NA is 70 mph? What is crucial is that we prevent those evildoers under 25 from driving (LOL).

Let's make a person's speed limit the same as their age. The older you get the faster you can go. Seems fair to me. I'm 55... :-)

Should probably use some sort of bell curve to achieve a Peak Speed at around age 40.

Actually, 75 mph on Interstates in Nevada.

Those performance numbers are perfectly acceptable for a general purpose vehicle. In fact, those numbers don't necessarily capture the responsiveness of a vehicle off th eline since electric motors have a flat torque curve unlike ICEs. One could also argue that all gasoline powered vehicles have become increasingly overpowered. A Honda Accord V6 has around 240 HP and 7 second 0-60 times, comparable to expensive sport sedans of ten years ago. All the technological gains of the past two decades has gone into greater HP rather than fuel efficiency.

BTW, the hybrid Honda Civic is comparable in performance to the Prius. None of them focus on 0-60 times, which is just as it should be. The hybrid Camry posts numbers in the 7 second range, but its fuel economy is twenty percent worse than the Prius.

I would agree.

I used to own a 1994 BMW 325i convertible and its inline six had 194 HP and that car was pretty damn fast.

Now even the non-luxury, family sedans have substantially more standard horse power than my old BMW 3 series.

Rather than using advances in motor technology to increase fuel efficiency, the manufactures have chosen to raise HP.

I read somewhere that Honda was going for performance - perhaps it was only the Accord.

That is correct. The Accord Hybrid gets good performance but terrible gas mileage (< 30 MPG>) and does not sell well.