I truly think you miss a major thread among many TOD posters (often American) - that is, the 'A*&Holes with Hummers' are going to destroy Walden Pond, along with anyone suggesting that doing so is just plain idiocy.

The other point is that many here also think what the 'A*&Holes with Hummers' believe, as compared to what they do, won't matter anyways - there will be less oil, regardless of what the 'A*&Holes with Hummers' want.

Very few people here think Walden Pond is an option - as a matter of fact, the number of such posters probably hovers around zero.

Maybe you should do some reading before writing something that seems to fit your pre-conceived notions. For example, this quote from memmel - 'These last ten years of SUV's, McMansions and globalization probably increased the pain by a order of magnitude. Its like we have done everything in our power to make peak oil as painful as possible. The biggest unknown is that a lot of the people that will suffer demand destruction actually live in the same cities as the wealthy its unclear they will take dropping to a third world living standard peacefully.

Large parts of greater Los Angeles will burn for sure how this effects the rest of the US is unknown. On the east coast you have a number of the older poor cities that could potentially succumb to rioting. In the San Francisco area Oakland for example is likely to suffer riots. I think these demand destruction riots and resulting crashes in property values as people flee the effected regions will cause serious problems for the US.'

Doesn't sound like Walden Pond to me.