Search The Oil Drum with Google
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Local
- Streets: Utilitarian Corridors or Livable Public Space
- Summer Streets a Success!
- Plan for Hydro-Fracture Drilling for Unconventional Natural Gas in Upstate New York
TOD:Europe
- Oilwatch Monthly - November 2008
- The 2008 IEA WEO - Production Decline Rates
- The EU Strategic Energy Review: maybe not so depressing after all
TOD:Canada
- The Round-Up: October 24, 2008
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
- Oil Megaproject Update (July 2008)
TOD:ANZ
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- David Strahan
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- jeffvail.net
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Finance & Economics Blogs
- Calculated Risk
- Ecological Economics
- Econbrowser
- Environmental Economics
- Infectious Greed
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
Organizations
“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”
—Mark Twain
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Prof. Goose, Heading Out, Stuart Staniford, Nate Hagens
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Gail the Actuary, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Khebab, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Local: Glenn
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Technician: Super G
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.





GAIA Host Collective
Some inconvenient facts:
Scotland last made a positive cash contribution to the UK Exchequer in 1905.
Scotlands oil is currently providing 11 billion sterling a year to the UK Exchequer.
The UK provides 30 billion sterling to Scotland each year.
The Barnet formula ensures that for every pound sterling of government money spent in England, £1.25 is spent in Scotland.
Last time I looked: 11-30 = -19 billion sterling per year.
Scotlands oil will fall from its peak production in 1999 to at least half that by 2015, and probably less than 1 million bbls / day by 2018.
25% of the working population in Scotland are employed at tax payer largesse. Many in ludicrous and overpaid and pension protected jobs
Less than half the total population are actually in paid employment contributing taxes to the exchequer. About 48%
And this figure includes the public employee tit-babies
Prior to the discovery of North Sea Oil, Scotland was rapidly depopulating. Especially in the North East.
Incomers have stabilised the population decline. Which is good. Because by 2025 we will need lots of overtaxed low wage immigrants to wipe our arses while we whinge and whine in old folks homes. I am sure they will flock in to do it.
By 2025, Scotland will be an old peoples home, with the North Sea kaput, and public employees demanding impossible protections and entitlements from an ever reducing and ageing work force.
And all of the above is without Global Peak Oil or GW.
Aye. Today was a sea change in Scottish politics. But the new Masters dont even recognise Peak Oil and have sold a line about oil lasting another 30 years and the creation of a Norwegian Style Oil Endowment Fund.
The new man in charge is an Economist by the way...
So, by 2010 the new boy wants a referendum on independence and he has also said that (and this IS true) If Scotland does not like independence, we can always go and re-join the Union.
One last important little factlet:
Scotland was not forced to join the Union 300 years ago. It joined after the Darien Fiasco (Scotlands attempt at raising overseas colonies). When Scotland Joined the Union it was Bankrupt and had been suffering under a severe Christian Regime very similar to the Taliban (''why dont Scots have sex standing up? - Because somebody may think they are dancing''.)
The Union heralded Access to Capital, Access to markets, And the truly amazing and world changing Scottish enlightenment.
Scotland lost interest in the Union about the same time Britain's Empire went into decline.
I dont see today as a good day for Scotland or the UK.
As for rejoining the Union at a later date, well, 55 million English may have something to say about that.
If Scotland is lucky, it may be in a position to sell water to the English as the climate dries England out.
Ha...thanks for the "insider's" scoop on the situation. I was just using the Scottish example to illustrate that it is not only Chavez that wants to keep his resources for his own country. We will probably here many more "local" stories about the "natives" doing what they have to to keep the resource in their hands. Heck, Africa has almost daily stories along this line.
'In Saudi Arabia gasoline costs about 45 cents a gallon. In Iran it's 33 cents. Venezuelans pay less than a quarter.
These absurdly low prices are a direct result of massive government subsidies.
While these numbers are not adjusted for cost of living, it's fair to say that drivers in those countries are getting a good deal.
But it's straining government budgets. More importantly, it's not allowing the free market to do its job. Higher prices on the open market are not leading to a drop in demand, which is keeping the cost of oil high for everyone else.'
http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/04/news/economy/gas_demand/index.htm?cnn=ye...
Especially note the 'not allowing the free market to do its job' - if Saudi Arabia or Iran or Venezuela decide to sell themselves their own oil at their own price (so to speak), this is unfair to Americans, as it stops the free market from working.
I believe the Iraqis, however, have made major strides in allowing the magic of the free market to work for them. Strangely, the article didn't note this success in lowering demand by raising prices in an oil producing country.
I may add, the article provides some basis to see the export land model in operation - not that it actually mentions this point, except to more or less suggest that an oil producing country should not be allowed to escape the demands of the free market by increasing their own consumption - after all, merely because it theirs doesn't mean they should be allowed to keep it selfishly for themselves. After all, Iraq doesn't.
As a Scot I am not happy with this blatant misrepresentation of my country...would the editors please remove this?
As an American of Scottish decent I would prefer the editors to leave it. I feel a more appropriate response with
a broader positive result would be for you to engage with dialog.
Where IS that 'Theory of Everything' ?
Here it is !
Who's to say it's "misrepresentation"? The Darien fiasco is historical fact, and Scottish demographic trends are public record. Besides, there is no value in free speech unless it includes speech you don't like.
I don't need lectures about free speech thanks. Responsible free speech is required, not a diatribe. Don't you lot usually deal with trolls quietly? If you think Mudlogger's analysis is sound then that shows two closed minds not one. I think the current state of Scotland is more nuanced than ML would allow. If Scotland is such a basket case then I wonder if that had anything to do with deindustrialisation or the use of much of our land for aristocratic 'sports'. Being tied to a neighbour so much bigger and so arrogant with it does not help. If you are English ML why don't you and your countrymen set us free and watch us drown. We don't mind. We could do with having your foot taken off our heads as we try to surface though...
As for ML's analysis, if you really think it is so transparently obvious, I should be humble and listen reverently, and then I must re-contact all those academics I used to hang out with and tell them to get down to McDonalds pronto, I hear you can always get a job there...
At least the English do not deny the Scots right to exist, as many Americans have on this forum and elsewhere to New Orleans.
Best Hopes,
Alan