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This would make a good article. Consider writing it up. Percent cropland required. How much coal we would need to distill etc. Summery of EROI studies.
The Hirsch report did not include biofuels because they did not consider the technology mature enough (they required a minimum of at least 10,000 bpd capacity to count beyond the pilot stage).
While corn ethanol is terrible for EROI (and we cannot afford the carbon from coal) I wonder how much worse it is that CTL?
Don't have time to do all the reearch required.
I have seen a figure of 6 EROEI for sunflower oil. That compares with a figure I have seen for ethanol of 1.35 - or maybe even <1. If one rigs up an old-time horse-powered press right on the farm, maybe the EROEI could even be a little better for the sunflowers. Running straight veg oil in cold weather is a problem, but as most farm machinery tasks are in warm weather that should not be much of a problem.
How much acreage would have to be dedicated to growing sunflowers to power a tractor for a year? According to the source below, 1 acre of sunflowers should yield 102 gal of sunflower oil per year; rapeseed does a little better at 127 gal/ac.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
The total amount of fuel needed to run a farm for a year will depend upon the size of a farm, but I would guess that for most farms we are talking about a few acres at most. The source below lists typical farm fuel consumption per acre for most common mechanized tasks.
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/AGDM/crops/html/a3-27.html
Looking at this table, it would appear that the total fuel consumption may run somewhere in the range of 2.5-5 gal/acre, depending upon crop. That would suggest that a single acre of sunflowers should provide enough fuel for at least a 20-40 acre farm. A 160 acre farm may require between 4-8 acres of sunflowers. That would seem to me to leave plenty of acreage for food production.