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Doesn't that just say it all?
As for the call for the government to "enact policies that promote reduced oil consumption" - the best policy is to let the price increase, dude!
Of course she doesn't have a choice - if she stopped driving, her life would change.
And give the choice, she would rather spend upwards of 10 hours a week in her SUV than not.
That truly says it all.
My dear Sandy, putting aside whether you actually have a choice or not -
If you don't choose for yourelf, then a choice will be made for you...
Oh, this one is really good too, from the "70's style oil crisis" article above
What is "unconscionably excessive"? Costs more than bottled water ?
I thought this one was also telling:
He could have been driving something such a Scion XB to 'haul around' his 'wares', but that would be whimpy, wouldn't it?

well it's just a really aesthetically unpleasing design. Plus an suv w/ all the attendant poor handing dynamics. I'll take a TDI and use a roof rack (probably holds almost as much anyways)
matt
Actually, the Scion XB (old version, as pictured) has on-rode driving dynamics that are more car-like than truck-like. While it barely exceeds the external aesthetics of an Aztec, it has quite a bit of room inside, 30+ MPG efficiency, $14k list price.
That said, I think the best solution for the GMC Yukon person is a cargo van. Or, wait until fuel prices reach $5+ and stay that way; then the US will suddenly have a large assortment of vehicles that are currently only used everywhere else in the world but here.
The Scion has 74 cubic feet of cargo volume.
The Chevy TrailBlazer has 107 cubic feet of cargo volume.
The Honda Odessy Minivan has 147 cubic feet of cargo volume.
The Scion wins out on MPG at 33mpg HWY.
The Chevy Trailblazer gets 20mpg HWY.
The Honda gets 25 mpg HWY.
The Scion wins out on price as well. $14k.
Honda minivan is $25.6k
Chevy Trailblazer is $25.8k
If you need good gas mileage AND big cargo capacity, minivans are the way to go. Just take all the seats out, and BOOM, cargo room. If you don't need as much cargo space, the Scion is the way to go.
Well, we could sell the used Pukons to countries with subsidized gas prices.
Don't forget to take them off when not in use...
http://www.metrompg.com/posts/roof-racks.htm
Come to think of it, a Pukon is really good for towing things. That is if you have things that you need to tow.
I know someone who has one - he uses it because he races cars (Porsche), and need to pull a trailer with the race car. Don't talk to me about it - that isn't my hobby.
I'm waiting for the "soccer kid" riots to begin, when mommy has to say NO, ride your bike or forget it! Oh the cruelty of it all...
Yeah, all those reports that people "cannot change" their driving, since they have to drive to work, and then we have the stats (that Stuart posted here?) that only 20% of US VMT is commuting to work.
Delusional.
You may not be far from the truth. (And this will also impact the UK because of the way many of us now live).
Two types of driving:
None discretionary - Work commutes, food shopping etc
Discretionary: - Piano lessons, Rugby practice, football, tuition etc etc. Then of course the summer holidays: Visits, holidays, the beach etc
Everything to keep their most Imperial and Royal Highnesses happy, occupied and not (the dreaded word here) BORED.
Long gone are the days when kids were expected to look after there own entertainment in the summer. Kicked out after breakfast, back at sunset, out on your bike for the whole day. Setting fire to wasps nests, vapourising ants with a magnifying glass, playing down 't tip with asbestos sheeting, discovering Cider with Rosie.
This idyll was actually quite true 40 years ago. But then perceptions have changed: A kiddy fiddler behind every bush, An Osama in every anonymous white van...
So, expect discretionary driving to dissappear off the menu this summer. And consequent degeneration of national child health.
Ah well, at least every pre-diabetic, asthmatic, obese kid will be 'safe' this summer.
btw: UKGov MOD has just dropped its fitness criteria for new Army recruiting entry levels. Running in boots is out: the 'little darlings' have spent their lives in trainers so the foot bones of new recruits are too soft.
Example: The Ten Tors hike in Devon / Cornwall was abandoned last weekend for 'health and safety' (It was raining, a bit...). 850 Soldiers, helicopters and St Johns Ambulance were involved in the 'rescue' of the teenagers involved.
A spokesman said: ' Although NONE of the participants completed the hike, ALL were awarded the Ten Tors Medal'.
AFFS! Why bother then? Why not just buy it off ebay?
God help us if the Belgian Girl Guides invade the UK. We are toast.
Jeezus effin Christ: Maybe 12 year old African kids with AK47's should inherit the earth.
Astounding, and I thought only Amurkhan kids deserved outrage such as this!!!!
You...you really mean that some folks other than us idiot Amurkhans have spoiled rotten children and soccer mommies?
Why then is it all I mostly hear is bitching about the USA?
Thanks Mudlogger for the realist update and appraisal.
A personal note: I tried my damnest to raise my kids right but the schools, television and there mother decided they knew best. After 5 years of grade school my son didn't know the answer to 2+2. It was all downhill after that.
Airdale--Phillip Wylie said it all...years ago.
Question: Why don't we just jail the pedophiles for life or else execute them? Or let them swab out jail cells for the rest of their miserable life? Why do we need to 'study' them? Ditto serial killers.
Oh no. I thought it was only here in the US.
Your Ten Tors Medal story is bad and sad. It's sad that someone can't speak out without getting labeled as being mean and too hard on the poor little tikes. I agree why bother, have cookies and milk instead.
My son pitched a fit because he was "mistreated" by working here at home AND GETTING PAID above minimum wage the whole time. He constantly rubbed everything the the kids from high tech families had in my face as a sign of his mistreatment. I was a frickin battle and I'm glad he moved out as soon as he did. Still brings it up. I'm sorely tempted to tell him STFU, get counsuling, or just stay away.
Seriously, WTF? "Suffering" is not having mommy and daddy buy you are new car, insurance, gas, the best computer, new snow board, the list goes on. Helped him through college and to buy a house. I guess he thinks my bank account was supposed to be his. After a while you just get to that point if he can't shut up and grow up then I don't want him here, and this is very sad IMO.
I get so mad a people who think they are helping thier kids by giving them everything. Is it 1)guilt from not spending time with them. 2)that the parents had to do without and never wanted thier kids to "suffer' as they did.3) They want thier kids to be cool. 4) Caved into thier kids pressuring them.
I haven't a clue, but its a bitch putting up with the shit. Fortunatly my wife and I are on the same page(!!!) Even if you have the money they need to earn it themselves. Yes you can help them but not like so many parents do in my not so humble opinion.
Sorry to see its so universal. I see lowering standards here to. Volenteer(sp?) coached b-ball one year in kids gradeschool. My god the attitude/language that came out of soome kids. I went to the principle and talked to him. He agreed with my observation (needing some firm discipline!)but said our hands are tied. The two worst offenders from this tiny school have been in the papers - arrested for drugs and stealing. Words cannot describe how disgusted I was by the whole experience, never, ever again.
Naah, fuhgeddaboudit, mommy's never going to say anything like that. Never in 106 years. "Too dangerous." I don't think the objective statistics are one iota worse than 20, 30, or 40 years ago. But ever since Ralph Nader, mommy and daddy have been consumers living in ever-growing sheer terror of their own shadows.