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Well, I'm no expert, but I'll take a shot at these:
1. We don't need more roads. If heavy shipping was confined mainly to rails or water, the roads we have now would last a lot longer. And there are plenty of roads. Houses are not in short supply either, especially when you consider how much living space North Americans indulge in. Lots of places to live. As for building railways...well, we managed to build cross-continental railways more than 100 years ago. This is hardly something that can't be accomplished, it just takes a large scale effort organized by governments. It's also something that would still be accomplished on large-scale, so each community does not need it's own railway designers (labour they would need, perhaps).
2. If a local community can't save enough food from good years to make it through bad years, then the community shrinks/moves/dies. It's simple, and it's what already happens in many areas of the world (and used to happen everywhere). Horrifying to contemplate on a large scale perhaps, but local overshoot is the driving force behind global overshoot if the global trade economy can't be maintained. It's like global peak oil...there is no global oil, there's a bunch of local oil fields, each one will peak on it's own. Food growth has the advantage of being able to settle to a constant level at some point.
3. Tough one..."post-peak world" to me implies people able to do entire tasks themselves...i.e., build the entire house, work on the entire farm. There are a lot of books around, maybe those will come in handy. But yeah, it seems almost impossible looking at it personally.
4. Well, if you're living locally, you don't see the other community, and any sense of being a "global citizen" goes out the window. Other communities without enough food will start migrating to where there is enough food. Over time, it settles out, but would you welcome migrants or defend your "territory"? That's going to depend on how fast it happens, I think.
Adam, I dont have a crystal ball so I cannot give a perfect snapshot of what a post peak US will look like. However, I can give a glimpse of the past in one US location during, prior and after the great depression, which might look a lot like a post peak US - for the survivors.
In Northern Louisiana my grandmother had a farm of about 180 acres of red clay soil with some sandy loam. She had five children, three girls and two boys, the oldest was my father. In 1932 near the peak of the depression her husband and middle son passed away from Pnemonia during the same week. The family had a mortgage on the farm and no money for medicine or a doctor. My father dropped out of school in the 9th grade to take over the heavy work on the farm that consisted of plowing with a team of mules, harvest, maintaining the implements, making feed for the stock, any building of outbuildings, cutting wood for the kitchen stove and fireplace in winter (about 40 acres were left in timber for wood for the stove and for any lumber that was needed for building projects),etc. The daughters were busy with a large garden, canning, gathering eggs, churning butter, and helped with the harvest, milking, etc. There was no electricity, no air conditioning, a well with bucket and pulley located on the back porch was their water supply, refrigiration was provided by one 25 lb. block of ice delivered by the ice man from the nearest large town once per week, other 'cooling' - for butter and other perishables - was done by placing objects in a bucket and lowering them partially into the well. Once per month the one gallon kerosene can would be filled for ten cents at a nearby blacksmith/gas station and this was to refill the lanterns - the only night lighting that they had. Pork was kept by use of a smokehouse. When the farm harvested vegetables they were taken by the mules and wagon to the nearest large town on Saturdays for sale to stores and the public, along with butter and eggs. Many streams that had to be crossed to reach the town had no bridges so if the streams were swollen by rain the trip to town was off. On Sundays the family walked to church, a distance of about four miles each way. Very little other travel was done. The 'cash crop' that the family produced was rotated from feed corn to cotton each year. Little was known about crop rotation but it didnt matter because during the depression there was no money in circulation to pay for a cash crop and no bank had any money to front farmers for seed and fertilizer. Basically, the farmers in the area were self sufficient during the time of the depression which did not end in the area until WW2 was well over. They purchased flour, salt, kerosene and a few other essientials with the money from eggs, butter and vegetable sales. They made their own syrup from a patch of sugar cane, grinder, and boiling pot. The same pot was used on Saturdays for boiling the wash and was used for rendering lard from hogs. The boiling pot was kept busy. So was my dad, the woodcutter.
The amount of hard manual labor that was put in by all farm families in the area is incomprehensible to most people that post on this board. The families worked from daylight till dark - the work was endless. True, there were a few breaks in the actual farm work during the year but these times were spent mending harness, repairing fences, outbuildings, digging out the well, or hunting quail, squrill, gigging frogs, gathering mushrooms (for cooking or sale), butchering and smoking hogs - including making sausage, taking corn to be ground into corn meal at the gristmill, catching fish to eat with gill nets and a bunch of other chores that kept coming at you every day. Even with all their hard work these families did not always eat three meals a day. A draught, too much rain, insects, hot weather that caused the hens to stop laying, cows that would eat bitterweed and give milk that no one could drink, and many other unforseen things could befall them...such as pnemonia. Many people died young from illness or were just plain worked to death. The only meal that they ever ate away from home was during 'vacation bible school' at the church in springtime. Vacations as we know them were totally unknown. If they had some kerosene they would read the bible for a short time prior to going to bed. Doing this sort of work will make one so tired that after dinner its bed time.
I hear many on this board comment on how important it is to work together in a community. I found that little 'working together' was actually done. Large families were the norm and they were necessary to keep up with the grinding farm work. I found that many extended families were not close and the gossip in these small communities was devastating to some. Grudges were held in spite of religion. I often heard the term 'he/she married above or below him/herself'. It was a sort of caste system but unlike anything I have encountered elsewhere. If anyone was perceived as the least bit 'unusual', they were ostracized. Outsiders would be tolerated if they were 'normal' but they were never really accepted as part of the community. If you were of another faith or another color it was not the place to settle. I found these people narrow minded, petty and mean. Since that time I have lived in proximity to Amish communities and have seen much more cooperation among families. Perhaps this is because of the difference of religion?
Farms were located near to a larger town that had a market for cash and garden crops, generally a thirty mile round trip by mule team and wagon was about the limit. If you look on the map today you will see that larger towns are situated about 30 miles apart. Of course many of the older farms are now suburbs. Almost nothing was known about the families living a mere forty miles distant. Since essentials and the mortgage consumed almost all of the little money coming in there was very little for frivolous items. If any money was left over it went for material to make make your own clothing or a new pair of store bought overalls or work boots. Cloth sacks that flour was sold in were made into clothing. Nothing was discarded until it was totally worn out.
I lived on my grandmothers farm for parts of my hs years and I did some of the chores. The work was much less than in my fathers time for the depression was over, we only had a garden, hens, raised beeves on halfs for other people, bought and put up hay and hayed the cows, milked the one cow that we still had, collected eggs, Picked up and sold the pecan crop, etc. It was nothing compared to the depression because of the natural gas found in N Louisiana. The house was heated by gas, we had electricty, had an electric pump for the well, had electric appliances, but still I found myself busy before and after school. I also spent a summer working on my uncles dairy farm and a summer working on a hybrid seed corn plantation and they are not experiences that I look back on fondly. As soon as I graduated hs I was out of there and have never longed to return to such a life. I still have a garden but that is it.
Anyone that finds themselves living this sort of life after peak oil will soon find out just how many man hours are in a barrel of crude oil.
River,
I can agree with most of what you state, and in fact I have stated most of this here on TOD in various posts.
I was born in 1938. During my childhood on the farm it was pretty much as you state.
Here is some exceptions,maybe because we had richer land or was settled far earlier than Louisana or the people were more cohesive due to having migrated from the east. Primarily N.Carolina, Virginia and S. Carolina. The people were mostly of Irish and Scotch with a few others Europeans mixes thrown in.
The exceptions: Everyone helped others. You bartered work so to speak. You helped a neighbor put up hay and he helped you plant corn or tobacco or whatever. You traded off breeding stock. You used the churches and town at means of keeping ties close and everyone was very very hospitable. To this day everyone here waves at each other or nods on meeting or passing or on the road.
The work was hard but interspered with lots of free time. I was never as tired as you state. I relished that lifestyle and when I returned to it in 85(this farm) I worked once more quite hard but enjoyed lots of leisure even though I was building a log house, had no paycheck for 3 years, and did custom hay work all over the county and still had time to program totally from scratch a 911 county databased system. All code was mine and I also did the hardware,totally.
So the work is there. You must do it. Children are necessary. Those who are trying to state that we need to not have more children can't realize that the farm requires children. A absolute necessity.
"Don't look back fondly"...I do. Its good memories for me. Enough so that I always tried to have some land. Today working in my garden,working in the barn, meeting neighbors and driving tractors are things I love to do.
I loved the smell of a newmown hay field. Square or round baling it was always a pleasure to see the fields respond and put up some quality hay.
Its different now if you are a corn/bean/wheat farmer/operator. NOW its hard hard work and a real drudge. No matter how many hundreds of acres you work you are still just running in place. No break except from last of planting to start of harvest and a bit of winter.
This type of new ag is not for me. Piss on the exports ,to hell with confinement hog and chicken feeding, nonsense to the genetic modifications and Monsanto. This is just mechanical with out nature as a part of the equation.
The farmers today are NOT good stewards of the land. They are simply destroying it to feed the maw of the exports and big companies like ADM,Bunge,Consolidated and so on.
I am there, I am driving the grain trucks,I work on the equipment, and this is what I see.
So to me the older style of farming far more preferable.
To this day I still visit with my kinfolks. We have big extended families. Someone asks my name and instantly they know all about my extened families and the connections because of intermarriage. We are mostly Baptist but on my mothers side all Catholics. Lots of Catholic churches and they put on good bbq and fish frys. Lots of good fishing and hunting here.
You are never at a loss for friendship and comradeship.
It was not bleak to me back then. Its not now, at least not the way I am living. I pretty much live out of my garden when possible and can a huge amount. I bake my own bread , time permitting. I dig wild ginseng and goldenseal. I made homebrew beer given time.
I do not discard clothing and guess what? You don't have to ever 'dress up' or wear dockers and new shit. Old bib overalls in the town restaurant will not even be noticed.
"Worked to death"..I am 68,take no drugs nor medicine. Never been operated on except for appendicitis as a teenager. I grew up in a healthy environment and my health is the proof. My wife is 6 yrs younger and takes massive amounts of drugs,has two hip replacements, and two coronary heart attacks. She was not raised on a farm. She dislikes farm life for its WORK!!!!! Suprise. So she says..."hon,don't go out and work in that garden,your wearing yourself out and it will kill you"...I reply "you do not understand , that work keeps me healthy"....
So take your pick. I have already taken my pick. All the rest who were not raised as I was may jerk back in fear,awe and shock and decide to just become a cornie or just die in place. Sit for someone else to do the work and they do the consuming...of course that won't work.
Those are the ones who will not make it. They don't have the background nor ability nor desire.
You need to test yourself by shutting off the air conditioner. Go out in the heat and squat in the garden and pull weeds and grass. Drink wellwater instead of carbonated papwater. Try to not be always taking those showers. The dogs won't care if you sweat. Live on less then ask yourself what the future holds. Raise those chickens,get that beehive,trade the eggs and honey or get a milk cow or two and make cheese,learn to hand milk a cow..Do something for crying out loud.
It will not get any easier when the shitstorm comes. If you can't do it in the 'green' how will you do it in the 'dry'?
Airdale-sorry but I saw and lived it different
I once interviewed a guy who brought his family into Amish/Mennonite country and loved it. A suburban kid and MIT graduate student studying "Science, Technology and Society."
Interesting thesis!
Can be heard here:
http://globalpublicmedia.com/eric_brende_on_the_partys_over_going_local
Did you have tractors/motorisation?
My family was a "rich" farming family in Ohio - until the 1920s (mind you, the depression began in the US-farming sector almost directly after WWI).
Modernisation basically destroyed the farming system as they knew it, also destroying most of the income base.
Things may have become "easier" after the depression because of electricity e.g., but the money situation only changed (for the better) after Social Security began paying the bills (grandparents going into retirement)..
Cheers, Dom
Munich
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My grandfather pumped oil with an engine-house,
my father pumped oil with a 20 lb. electric motor,
can't I just pump it online?
This was a no motor community. The used animals and human labor, some ingenious ram pumps for water.
I have to agree that raising your own food is hard damn work. I've been on both sides of that, and currently raise just a few veggies, but it's enough to keep me and wife busy weeding, tilling, planting, picking, canning freezing, etc. I retired from the corporate life in 2000 at age 55, so it's not a "farm or starve" situation for us.
I do think that if there is a collapse that a lot of folks will starve if they can no longer walk into a MickeyD's for sustenance tho. On another forum, there's been a periodic thread about food preferences that tells me a lot about attitudes in the US. My position is that vegetarianism, diets of one sort or another or refusal to eat what's available "because I don't like it" or I can't eat "Fido", would come to a screeching halt. Food preferences are a luxury of the wealthy.