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BrianT on June 24, 2007 - 2:32pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Eric: You might be right, but the gated communities I have seen in Florida have armed guards. Currently private security is a huge and growing business in the USA and I would expect societal breakdown to help it prosper even more. You could even see large concerns like Blackwater taking over protection for larger communities. IMHO, the upper middle class and above will pay top dollar for physical protection (it is worth as least as much money per annum as healthcare).

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eric blair on June 24, 2007 - 6:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Eric: You might be right, but the gated communities I have seen in Florida have armed guards.

And if we are at the point where there is to be 'raids' on gated communities, one has to keep in mind the difference between the old and new gated city model.

There was not .308 or .50 cal rifles. The attackers can reach out and touch someone from a long distance. Do these guards want to work when they would lack the 'protection of the state' if they start getting snipped from other urban cover?

And some of the 'members of the lower class' are being trained on how to do this under the idea that the training will result in a chance to move up the ladder.

(Again, - how does this all end well? As a species, we'd better hope that the optimists turn out right.)

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MUDLOGGER on June 24, 2007 - 7:44pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Forget the great unwashed, the poor, the benighted.

Forget money sucking mercanaries from Blackwater

Think about the pissed off ex-marines and soldiers.

The legionaires who came home, avoided the mutilation of IEDs, and know how to 'clean and cock', and can lay hands on weapons.

Think Russia 1918, Germany 1921.

Think Spartans and Friekorps.

Type Friekorps into Google or Wiki

Think pissed off, let down, left in the lurch, stabbed in the back.

The USA has the largest number of ex military types in the western world. You cycle more young men and women through the armed forces than any other Western nation. Assume that they did not forget the training when de-mobbed. Assume that going through hell+ returning to a shit job+ subprime mortgage may be considered a bit of a wind-up

All can get legal access to weapons.

Disenfrachised Ex military types + over the counter weapons = civil war.

Last time these conditions occured in Britain, we chopped the head off a King.

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Durandal on June 24, 2007 - 10:19pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

That's exactly the sentiments expressed to me by a friend yesterday. He said, "Forget the rednecks, it's those ex marines who are going to have mutiny against their commanders, and then we'll have a bunch of pissed off guys who are practically the dregs, running around in tanks terrorising and killing as they please."

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eric blair on June 24, 2007 - 10:25pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

errrr, that is not sounding like 'remind me how this ends well'.

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