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westexas on July 19, 2007 - 5:26pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Strictly speaking, of course it's Alan's point, but I think that it is critically important. Many electric systems were built in the late 19th to early 20th centuries, with little or no oil input. The car culture is so ingrained in the US that I think that people have trouble thinking of alternatives.

IMO, Alan will be giving the single most important presentation at the ASPO-USA meeting. How many times and in how many different ways do we need to hear that we are in trouble? What we need are plans to implement, in order to "make things not as bad as they would otherwise be."

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Nick on July 19, 2007 - 6:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

"Many electric systems were built in the late 19th to early 20th centuries, with little or no oil input. "

And yet, they did a lot of manufacturing, and construction. This is not unique to trains: personal transportation is manufactured with the same techniques as trains, which suggests that PHEV's and EV's are also a perfectly viable path.

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mcgowanmc on July 19, 2007 - 7:46pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

yes, trains can mitigate
and will be useful for just
hand cars if nothing else.

But the "bottleneck" will prevent usefulness of trains
at the beginning.

People will camp on train lines for ex.

Trains use diesel for ex. Just retrofitting
will be an awesome endeavor and coal will be at peak as well.

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