CO2 Capture and Storage: The Energy Costs
Posted by Rembrandt on July 5, 2007 - 9:32am in The Oil Drum: Europe
Topic: Environment/Sustainability
Tags: carbon, carbon dioxide, CCS, coal [list all tags]
Capturing carbon dioxide from coal (and gas) fired electricity plants. Subsequently transporting the carbon dioxide from the plant and storing it underground in (abandoned) oil/gas fields, in other geological formations or on the ocean floor. It seems like an excellent solution for continued fossil fuel use in the coming decades.
The European Union wants to have 12 large CO2 capture and storage demonstration projects in place by 2015, requiring an investment of 5 billion euro. The expectation is that this development will cause significant cost reductions, making the technology affordable by 2020. There are however two large drawbacks, it will keep costing large sums of money and the process is quite energy intensive. In this post the impact of the extra energy cost of the process on coal depletion is quantified, the economics will follow in a later article.
A short overview of carbon capture and storage
To create a nearly pure stream of carbon dioxide at the power plant for storage there are three distinct possibilities.
Post combustion, in which the mixture of CO2 and flue gases after combustion is separated by using a liquid solvent.
Pre combustion, where the fuel is processed prior to combustion resulting in a mixture of mainly CO2 and hydrogen. Both gas streams are subsequently separated, so that the hydrogen can be combusted for electricity production and the CO2 for storage.
Oxyfuel combustion, using pure oxygen instead of air when combusting resulting in flue gas that contains mainly water vapour and CO2. Both streams can easily be separated and treated further if necessary.
All three processes are already applied in several industries on smaller scales but not for storage purposes. No attempt has been made to date to capture CO2 at large power plants. The choice for the system is highly dependent on the type of power plant. For instance in a gasification coal power plant pre combustion already occurs to a large extent so this option is much cheaper for such a plant. Most coal power plants built so far do not rely on gasification. For these post combustion is the best option.
Transport can be done either by pipeline or ship towards a preferred storage site. A significant amount of depleted oil and gas fields, saline formations (porous reservoir rocks saturated with brackish water or brine) and possibly coal seams are well suited for storage. In addition, carbon dioxide injection into mature oil fields can provide enhanced oil recovery by a process called miscible gas flood.
There are approximately one hundred carbon storage demonstration projects in various scales running at the moment. Of these only three are of the scale to be somewhat representative for future large scale storage systems of a large power plant. Weyburn in Canada, an enhanced oil recovery project. There 3000 to 5000 tons of carbon dioxide have been injected since 2000 in the Weyburn oilfield on a daily basis to produce more oil. Sleipner in Norway, a saline formation 800 meters below sealevel. 3000 tons of carbon dioxide per day have been injected from the nearby Sleipner West natural gas field since 1996. The reason being strict Norwegian carbon dioxide emission taxes of 45 euros per ton of emitted CO2, making it cheaper to inject than to emit. In Salah in Algeria, were 3000 to 4000 tons of carbon dioxide have been re-injected per day the In Salah gas field since 2004. A coal power plant of 800 megawatt emits around 13700 tons of carbon per day.
The energy costs of carbon capture
Creating a nearly pure carbon dioxide stream at a power plant is unfortunately quite energy intensive. The energy costs result from several processes. Firstly the added heat needed to create temperatures of 100 to 140 degrees celsius to regenerate the solvent that captures the CO2 out of the flue gas/CO2 stream. Secondly the energy to create steam that acts as a stripping gas to remove the CO2 from the solvent. Thirdly the electricity to operate the flue gas fan and pump the CO2 to its destination were it can be compressed. Fourthly the energy costs of compression of the CO2 to make it transportable towards it’s final destination were it can be stored.
Overall such processes raise the energy costs to produce the same amount of electricity in a cleaner way with 24-40% for new (supercritical) conventional coal plants using post combustion and 14% to 25% for coal based Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC) systems using pre combustion. These systems are already initially different, conventional coal plants being more efficient then IGCC systems, which explains some of the difference.

To look at the impacts of wide scale application of CO2 capture and storage, the additional energy costs of one “carbon wedge” is taken. The carbon wedge is a concept from the University of Princeton. Telling us that if we want to stop the current growth path of CO2 emissions, we need to introduce technologies that can counter growth of annual emissions from 7 Gigatons now to 14 Gigatons by 2055. If CO2 capture and storage would count for 1 Giga ton of avoided annual emissions by 2055 or one “wedge”, this technology needs to be implemented at approximately 855 coal power plants of 1000 megawatts in the coming decades.
This figure of 855 coal plants was derived by the following calculation: A 1000 megawatt coal power plant emits 5.5 Megatons of carbon dioxide per year. Converting this to carbon emissions (from CO2 to C) results in 1.37 Megatons of carbon per year. CO2 capture and storage efficiency is approximately 85%, so per power plant around 1.17 Megatons of carbon emissions per year would be reduced. Dividing 1 Gigatons of emissions by 1.17 Megatons gives 855 coal power plants.
An average 1000 megawatt coal power plant consumes 2,000,000 tons of oil equivalent fuel per year. Assuming that 25% more fuel would be needed, the additional fuel would come down to 425 million tons of fuel in oil equivalents per year to implement CO2 storage and capture at 855 coal power plants of 1000 megawatts. In 2006 coal consumption was 3090 million tons of oil equivalent per year according to the BP Statistical Review.
The effects of increased energy costs on coal depletion
If we process the 425 million tons into coal production forecasts, the effects on available energy from coal become clearer. For this I have taken the coal production scenario from the German Energy Watch Group (pdf), released a few months ago. In this scenario peak coal production is expected around 2020-2030 with at slow declining slope. When carbon dioxide capture and storage (CCS) is added the peak in energy provided shifts forward five years to 2015-2025. Furthermore the decline is much faster after the peak. The effects on more optimistic coal production scenarios would be different, because CCS would be introduced earlier before the peak that is expected later. That implies that the net energy peak would occur relatively earlier but the net energy slope after the peak will be less sharp.




Saying that 'some' CO2 can be injected underground for oil recovery is like saying that used vegetable oil is a good source of fuel. It may be true, but the amounts involved are limited. What do we do with the CO2 left after the oil injection? One suggestion is to run the trains on it. A 21st century version of the steam pressure design, but instead of filling up with water and coal, you drop dry ice in the 'water tank' The CO2 sublimates driving the train, and eliminating the fossil fuel required. To chill CO2 to dry ice you could use off peak tidal or whatever..
The mass of co2 injected can be quite high.
however using sublimation of co2 is retarded. the work one can extract from exanding gasses, which draw in heat is near nothing. it is for sure an energy losing process.
co2 is a "dead" molecule, no more energy can be extracted from it.
sheesh.
/thanks for the laugh tho. storing energy as sublimated co2.
//and what about the heavier than air vapours?
///everyone following such a vehicle would probably hyperventalate and pass out, maybe die if the conc. gets high enough
Hi - Gilgamesh , you say:
(I know what U mean ... BUT)
CO2 - is the most important thing actually ... and I therefor disagree 111%
for one -CO2 is "food" for all the green suff around , included algae .. hocus-pocus- there we have meat and fish
-secondly - the byproduct from the photosynthesis in "our dear" oxygen
CO2 is not dead at all - "what is dead though, are the braincells inside the US governmentals heads - or maybe they are throughoutly boneheads over there (?)", I dont know really.
=> this message hereinafter is mentally beamed to the US Senate - and not for TODers, because U are among us nice thinkers :)
I must say quite frankly- that I am very fed up and provocated over the US attitude on climate - and also over the idea of not embedding politics concerning peak-oil and beyond (today)
Remember- you 4% of world population grab and burn 25% of the oil- goods and U flash wars over it and threatens all over the place - it really scares me , and it should also scare the am_voters!
Let history be history - the overwhelming content in the IPCC-report is only understood,acknowledged and "approved" recently by most UN countries -
BUT the US...Australia and a few other "bad" parties does not comply - WHAT do you say ... ? .... You will find YOUR OWN SOULUTIONS ... HAAhhhh? I bet you will, as YOU roll out new SUVs and take the "bio-hal-lelujahs"...and the more "cartoonish hydrogen-hal-lelujah "...
Can americans be re-programmed to skip the idea of car ?
( or at f**** least go fore small tiny-cars. Fro starters..)
Chart 2 appears to be based on CCS starting ~10 years from now and being phased in over 20 years, is that correct?
correct
Do you really believe that could be an accurate forcast?
As shown I feel that chart is totally unrealistic as a prediction. Declining oil production will cause more than enough turmoil. No way will carbon sequestration be phased in if coal is also peaking.
With oil and possible gas production also declining any politician foolish enough to propose sacrificing 20-25% of the remaining energy available from coal and natural gas on the alter of global warming would rightfully get thrown out in the next election if not before.
I have trouble keeping up with all the posts on PO. What has happened to Dave Rutledge post about linking PO to declining CO2 driving term for global warming? I thought he showed that there really isn't a global warming problem because fossil fuel production decline will happen first in about 2070, as I recall. Or did I miss a post that demolished his argument?
Given the feedback effects already becoming apparent, we do not have the luxury of waiting until 2070; we may be in trouble because we sat on our hands until 2007.
It's surprising that biological carbon capture, using algae etc., hasn't got more attention yet. I'm not aware of any planned projects in the works, but some tests have been done in the U.S. On the surface of it it seems more scaleable and manageable than geosequestration.
Silly question, but if separating the CO2 from the flue stream is such an expense, has anyone looked at a method of emission capture that just takes everything? Obviously the volumes would be massive, but if you could hold a large volume somewhere, and CO2 being a heavier gas was left to drift to the bottom, you could then release the top portion every so often. Talking completely out of my field of expertise here, but I have to ask!
Most biological organisms will eventually decay and release their CO2 to atmosphere.
Unless their corpses are sent deep underground or undersea where no aerobic bacteria can digest them, and that's difficult to impossible.
I think it's much easer to avoid generating CO2 in the first place---nuclear is better, and we should keep the carbon geologically sequestered as permanently unmined coal.
Well the current plans revolve around using the organisms as a source of fuel, but obviously you'd still have the problem of capturing the left over carbon from that process.
Obviously it's in principle easier to avoid mining the coal in the first place, but even a crash program to replace the world's current fossil-fuel powered plants with nuclear ones would still generate a hellavu lot of CO2.
I hate nukes, but I think you are right.
I hope that Fusion, (IEC Polywell) can play a role. P-B11 fusion is so much cleaner than nukes, and can burn the fission waste.
Dr. Bussards IEC Fusion program... the cure for peak oil ?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/27/213841/746
Even if it was perfected tomorrow, it wouldn't make a dint in the immediate problem of peak oil, a liquid fuels crisis.
However this thread is about CCS, a 'cure' for global warming. Fusion (of any sort) would definitely be a big help there...providing we could actually get it working within the next few decades. I'm not holding my breath.
Carbon capture is needed but problematic, and I agree with the prior comment that there is an advantage to not creating the C02 in the first place. So anything that can partially replace liquid fuels... over time.. say the next 20-30 years, is really good. Unless I miss the mark, generating electricty by solar, wind maybe fusion can play a part in replacing most liquid fuels by ... say.. 2050.
Average US driver drives 30 miles a day.. right ? So there is a portion of liquid fueled vehicles that can easily be replaced by electric. Given time... -sigh-
The P-B11 fusion thing is theoretically very attractive, but I believe there is a problem in keeping the plasma dense enough to make it go. A conceptual problem - like particle physicists doing the math and needing to put two pounds of beans into a one pound bag to make it fly ...
Decay is a biological process. If the dead algae biomass is sterile, it will not decay. How keep it sterile? Store it amongst the canisters of spent nuclear fuel in a nuclear spent fuel storage site. That's a pretty deadly environment, I think. ;-)
Micro-organisms are hardly little things. And yes, some even live in nuclear reactor waste tanks, oddly enough.
Plus check out this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans
"You can never solve a problem on the level on which it was created."
Albert Einstein
Sorry, there's no way to mix two gasses and then have the heavier one "fall to the bottom". They are all perpetually mixed, each having it's own partial pressure. If that weren't so, we'd all be breathing pure 100% oxygen, since O2 molecule is heavier that N2...
Hmm, fair enough - but surely the CO2 *tends* to be more concentrated towards the bottom? Some sort of iterative process then comes to mind (sorry, just thinking like a programmer!).
That's only true to a (very good) approximation.
Uranium is enriched using gas centrifuges. You're right that it'll never work as a CO2 separation technique for the (energy limited) purposes of carbon sequestration through.
Altough still not viable, CO2 separation by centrifuges is much less energy intensive than separation of U isotopes. There are other methods of separating gases, that won't work for uranium, but work very well when you have a biger mass difference.
Also, altough the GP is partialy right, that you can't really separate gases once they are mixed, he's also partialy wrong because those gases will have different concentrations at top and botton of the recipient. That may be usefull on some way.
The problem is that flue gases of conventional CPP contain a lot of Nitrogen and Oxygen and then CO2 etc. You can NOT carbon capture this mix - because if your try to liquify it you would need very low temperatures and high pressures (courtesy to the Nitrogen content). After heated under the ground or sea-bed the liquid air will turn into high-pressure gas which will soon escape through the rocks pores.
The same problem does not apply to pure CO2 - it is liquified relaitvely easily and will stay liquid under moderate pressure underground or underwater.
Capturing flue gases in gaseous form is clearly out of questions - the exhaust gases of conventional CPPs have in the order of 10,000 times the volume of fuel burnt; we will run out of underground storage before making even a minor dent in carbon emissions.
Fair enough, I figured if it were that simple someone would have already proposed it.
So is there really no "passive" form of CO2 capture? No possibility of some sort of membrane that allows nitrogen and oxygen through but not CO2?
Slow pyrolysis of farm and forestry waste produces gaseous and liquid fuels as well as solid charcoal. When mixed with soil the charcoal will remain stable for thousands of years. There is an additional benefit that by using the gaseous and liquid fuels some fossil fuel use is avoided.
Thats what I was saying. Research is being conducted. What will it look like. Will the harvester be fueled by the plants it is carbonizing ? Send all possible fuels to one refinery ? Before we used oil chemicals were derived from wood like methanol which is used in production of biodiesel.
Plant a crop in a field to put carbon into soil, every diferent plant is going to give a diferent result. The source of this method is tropical rainforest using hardwood charcoal. Japan has used chared rice hull in controling golden apple snail in rice production, the rice char is also used to make a light weight soil for roof top gardening.
Depending on what it was, how it is processed and the amount of time it is in the ground, charcoal can have negative and positive effects for agriculture.
Rembrandt - thanks vey much for this post, which if correct, suggests to me that Carbon Capture has zero future. If your chart showing peak coal at 2025 is correct then no way will global society / economy be able to bare 20% of the energy produced from coal going into burying the CO2. And what would be the point?
I mentioned to you before that BP had plans to build the UK's first major CO2 capture project at Peterhead which is just up the road from where I live. Nat gas was to be conveted to H and CO2. The H burned in the existing powerplant and the CO2 injected into the offshore Miller Field - which produced sour gas and already had a high garde steel pipleine leading to it.
The project I understand has now been abandoned because of governemnt prevarication over subsidies. In other words the project was not economic with current CO2 prices.
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7006999
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=97&contentId=7006978
Your choice isn't going to be between CCS and non-fossil fuels. Your choice is going to be between regular old coal power plants and CCS. You either make a future for CCS by requiring it or you learn to swim.
If coal production peaks in 2025 you certainly won't have to worry about swimming.
On April 5th, Vattenfall started a "CO2-free" test coal power plant in Jänschwalde, Germany.
Vattenfall bet on the oxyfuel process.
They are now building a 30 MW pilot plant that is planned to go online in 2008.
http://www.vattenfall.com/www/co2_en/co2_en/index.jsp
The economic success depends on CO2 prices, which have to go up.
However, it is also true that coal plants are very unpopular because of the CO2 emissions, so they might just try to soothe the public.
I don't understand how that could ever happen? The only applications for CO2 that result in it being sequestered are limited.
The only way I can see it being implemented is if USA and China make CCS mandatory, and they have already said they won't do anything to harm their economy.
Sadly I am of the opinion that CO2 release and subsequent GW is inevitable. Unlike PO, there is no economic or political desire to reduce CO2 emissions.
I think, China will introduce the CO2 trading in a couple of years, so will the US.
Germany will negotiate with some US states so that they can join the EU CO2 trading, according to the German magazine "Der Spiegel".
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,492476,00.html (German)
The German government will also auction 10% of the emission certificates instead of giving them away for free.
Meanwhile, the EU is forcing governments to reduce the number of C02 certificates significantly.
So, the prices should go up.
And who will pay? Based on what real wealth? An energy-constrained future means a wealth-constrained future. I expect that under conditions of a faltering economy there will be no enforcement of sequestration.
Look around the world now, there are electrical power outages in many countries, and endless talk about an "energy crisis". I can't imagine that the political arena would give priority to climate change while people are rioting because they are sitting in the dark while their food is rotting in the refrigerators. Natural gas supply is running low in many industrialized countries, and many new coal plants are being built as fast as possible. Who will give up 25% of the capacity for CCS? Not to mention the capital investment.
The concept of using less electricity has thus far failed to get much traction with the general public in most places, even when and where it is clear that the choice is to use less or suffer immediate rolling blackouts. Everybody hopes their neighbors will conserve. The tragedy of the commons.
The power grid is still very, very reliable in continental Europe. Here in Berlin I have not had a single blackout for five years.
The big four utilities plan to invest €80 billion into grid and new power plants, the renewable captains say €150 billion until 2015.
The funding is still available, E.ON alone has huge cash reserves, they wanted to aquire Endesa with cash.
Merkel is very focused on this. That's the bit of leadership required to get things started. And without CCS, Germany will never achieve the CO2 target of -40% until 2020 compared to 1990.
Also keep in mind that Germans still have a healthy saving rate. We have no housing bubble, no account deficit. The public budgets are getting balanced, so I think, all of this is quite doable.
And who will pay? Based on what real wealth? ...
I can't imagine that the political arena would give priority to climate change while people are rioting because they are sitting in the dark while their food is rotting in the refrigerators.
I fully agree. It is thoughts like this coupled to demographic momentum that make me a doomer.
ciao,
Bruce
links for charcoal mixed into soil a possible way of fixing carbon into earth.
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/research/updates/issues/may-2007/soils-offer-n...
http://www.iaiconference.org/presentationsattendees.html
55 million years ago a plant ate all the co2 after the poles melted.
sunnyhenry
That was the Eocene period, and the formations from that period are one of the chief sources of lignite in Texas, and also an excellent producing oil and gas formation.
Nature had a number of methods to sequester CO2. Plants, which are the source of most oil and gas, and animals, their shells are limestone. The animals-coral and oysters-use the CO2 dissolved in seawater to make their shells, which are calcium carbonate.
We've been pretty heedless of the consequences of our releasing this CO2, and this post makes it obvious that CO2 sequestration isn't going to happen on a scale big enough to matter. I haven't seen the energy economics for charcoal, but I'm sure they are cost prohibitive.
Bob Ebersole
Hi Bob,
How about strapping this sucker on the back of your dune buggy, or maybe even power that air conditioner of yours and best of all you can use the charcoal to grow plants in your jardin de joie, just save me a toke, okay? BTW thanks for the Joe Stalin ref, took me right back to the Retinal Circus in Vancouver circa 1968 and the old favorite Fish tune 'Please don't drop that A bomb on me'
Actually I find the use of charcoal in soil really interesting as it might be possible to really make a dent in industrial fertilizers, as well as slow their progress to that Gulf fishing hole of yours?
Good fishing,
cr
BTW the image is from wiki 'wood gas'
Hi crystalradio,
The wood gasification does work, the Germans used it in WWII, but probably never in anything much heavier than a Volkswagon. I get tired just thinking about cutting that much wood. I'm in favor of people trying charcoal as a soil additive, but I have doubts about the ability of the biosphere to produce enough wood to make a difference in the CO2 concentration, and the energy economics of cutting biomass, heating it, then taking it to a field and plowing it in seem terrible-maybe even negative. The "dead zone" at the mouth of the Mississippi keeps expanding, all the nitrogen and phosphorus fertilisers keep the algae blooming, ethanol sure isn't helping.
By the way, I heard a new Country Joe war protest song the other day on KPFT in Houston. Not as catchy as the "Feel Like I'm Fixing to Die Rag", but pretty good. I love anti-war rallies because they feel like old hippy homecoming events. I see people that I haven't seen since the last war. Bob Ebersole
Another Shade of Green
Wood Chip-Burning Car Races at Green Grand Prix
June 2, 2006 was a historical day in racing and Casella was a part of it-thanks to Larry Shilling and Chip Beam. The two built and entered one of the 35 hybrid and alternative fueled vehicles (AFVs) for the Watkins Glen Green Grand Prix.
Larry Shilling, Casella Waste Systems’ western region landfill district manager and his neighbor, Chip Beam, a local architectural CAD operator teamed up to convert a 1988 Isuzu SUV into a wood chip-burning AFV. It only took them two hours to make the conversion and Chip raced it in the rally.
“It burns about a pound of wood chips per mile,” said Chip while prepping the car for the 78-mile course that wrapped around the edge of Seneca Lake in upstate New York. This is the Green Grand Prix’s second year and it is the first official SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) road rally for alternative fueled vehicles. Naturally, energy independence, greenhouse gas reduction and education about alternative fuels were major themes of the day.
Larry added, “Having a road rally with hybrids and vehicles that operate on alternative fuels, such as methanol, ethanol, compressed natural gas or electricity proves that these environmentally-friendly options exist and can be used without compromising performance.”