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PS, I agree with your point about imbalance--academia has a hard time with paradigm shifts. We are always slow. That's why this site and sites like it are so important.
I think--and I am not an IR scholar (but Jeff is, so he might be able to get at this better) is that this is the conflict between the neoliberal paradigm and the realist/neorealist paradigm in a time a resource scarcity. Noeliberalism argues for interconnected networks of interdependence--scarce resources break those down. Neorealism argues for power to shift to those with the resources, with the caveats of neoliberalism.
In other words, it's a clusterfuck.
A new paradigm is developing. I guess this is just what it feels like.
As for your dissertation, remember this: treat yourself well or you will never get your dissertation done. That means reading for pleasure as well. :)
I'm an IR guy too - :-) oil geopolitics must draw a lot of us types here.
I got my BA in IR. I also find oil geopolitics fascinating, especially what is happening in East and Central Asia--hell, for that matter, all over the globe.
Translation from academicese to english = "the shit is hitting the fan."
Translation = "I'm soiling my skivies thinking about the implications of this."
An astute, if not humorous, translation.
"ovis suburbanus" (which translate to "suburban sheep") has got to be one of the best screen names in the PO sphere I've seen yet.
I thought about posting as "Ignoramus North Americanus" once.
There are a couple other good ones here too. I saw "Sonic The Hedge Fund" on this thread.
Indeed, Matt. Indeed. :)
In other words we have a neofuckup?
Academia doesn't want to call it what is.
Incompetent illiterate people that can produce nothing of value and/or don't even have the skills to feed themselves are breeding like rabbits and are allowed to invade our societies.
Hi mus,
Could you please explain this a little further? What are you talking about? Are you talking about illegal/or legal immigration to the US, the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the general state of primary education in the US - or what?
Mostly that in first world societies the people that bring something to the table have basically zero population growth, while arrivals from the third and fourth world multiply like rabbits.
No one can afford to pay for this any longer.
Not much one can do about the ones here legally, but the law can be changed so births receive the citizenship of the mother and draconian fines and criminal penalties can be imposed on anyone hiring or doing any type of business with illegal aliens and generally enforcing existing law.
How do you deport 20+ million illegal aliens? You force them to deport themselves.
If it takes heavy armor on the border, so be it.
I most certainly didn't put 20+ years in to have these pieces of shit in DC selling the country down the river and have my neighborhood invaded by foreigners.
Hi Mus,
This discussion may well be over by now!
Just wanted to ask a few questions.
I thought there are some advantages to immigration.
For example, having a higher population of younger workers, to add to Soc. Sec, taxes...and do work. (?) With an aging population, at ZPG - doesn't this also cause problems?
I've also wondered about the following:
What if Mexico kept both its oil and its citizens at home? Then what?
What is the intersection between economics and population in terms of the manufacturing base? If X % (what is it, anyway) of manufactured goods sold in the US are made in China, is this kind of like having "de facto" immigrants from China?
I don't know...it just seems like the meaning of citizenship, in terms of "function" would be an interesting discussion. In the sense of economics.
Or have UPS find them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15D3ElV1Jzw
ROFLMAO.
invade our societies.
Come again? Within its own borders, the US has plenty of 'Incompetent illiterate people' who were born here.
Just watch broadcast TV for any length of time.
Even the families of 'old money' have such a 'design feature'.
I agree--
Marx may be solid proof of time travel--
No one could predict the things he did 150 yours out--
While wrong about human nature (too positive), if you need analysis on capitalism, Marx nailed it.
If you want someone who predicted the failings of Marx, read Bakunin--
As astute as Marx, only on communism.
Disclaimer: Not a Marxist, but historically appreciate his great insight