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48 comments on An Interview with Trilby Lundberg (or, Prof. Goose May Have a New Sworn Enemy)

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tstreet on July 11, 2007 - 8:45pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

Holy Crap!!! Even if this woman's ethical perspective made any sense whatsoever, her fantasy of continuing the American dream orgy ain't gonna happen, global warming or not.

Best hopes for a lot more simplicity and elegant, simple living on an ever endangered planet. If people are really envying this endangered and increasingly unsustainable way of life, then we need to disabuse them of the notion that the American way of life makes any sense for us, much less an entire planet.

If only these so called extremist views were really part of the mainstream. I see the mainstream every day and I guarantee it is not even close to adopting these so called extremist views. In America, excess continues to rule and is in little danger of voluntarily going away. Bling and more bling is the obscene American way.

Global warming, species destruction, depletion of resources, and energy is established whether this woman like it or not.

We will be damn lucky if we even survive and this woman wants to continue the excess standard. It's throw up time.

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jjhman on July 11, 2007 - 8:58pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Here's a letter to the editor from the Santa Rosa, CA Press Democrat from someone who is on an intellectual plane with Ms Lundberg:

(begin quote)
Debate not over
EDITOR: Except for people who positioned themselves to be significant share holders of oil stocks, we all want energy alternatives that are easier on the environment and our pocket books. However, Al Gore and his easily aroused Hollywood bandwagon have turned this into a political circus. Shame on Gore to claim "the debate is over."
One of the most brilliant men of our day, Michael Crichton, Harvard College grad summa cum laude and author of "Andromeda Strain," "Jurassic Park," and "State of Fear," to name a few works, researched global warming for over two years.

Crichton concluded "our approach to global warming exemplifies everything that is wrong with our approach to the environment. We are basing our decisions on speculation, not evidence. Proponents are pressing their views with more PR than scientific data. Why are we morally unjustified to spend vast sums on this speculative issue when around the world people are dying of starvation and disease?"

It is not sexy and does not have enough political gain for Gore and Hollywood to fight old-fashioned disease and starvation. Somehow we have to talk the liberal left out of the tree and get engaged with issues we know are factual and threatening. Together we can move mountains.

RANDY THOMAS
(end quote)

With this kind of mental horsepower in the voting booth is it any wonder the world is in the shape it is in? It amazes me how many people continue to relate notions of well being with having more stuff. As Americans slide down into a quagmire of lower real wages, less freedom, higher anxiety in their lives the belief that by working harder they will be richer and therefore happier seems to be indestructable. Peak Oil? Climate Change? Can't see it from my house........

(Can someone remind me how to block quotes and reference material??)

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Seadragon on July 11, 2007 - 9:13pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

As I've said before, people in my area will not "vote" for Global Warming or Peak Oil...they will just reject it out of hand as some liberal plot against America. My WAG is that about 40% or more of the US population will actively oppose any efforts to mitigate the issue. This, combined with the opposition from the entities which have a vested interest in the status quo, assures us that a gradual powerdown is untenable in the US.

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damac on July 11, 2007 - 9:59pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Of course no one will 'vote' for Global Warming (and I was about to abbreviate that as 'GW'- fine irony, hmm?) or Peak Oil. Those possibilities are both unnerving to say the least. Unfortunately, we're taking the 'monster in the closet' approach. Keep the door closed, and as long as I can't SEE it, we're OK.

As a kid, I loved listening to the stories my grandparents would tell. I simply couldn't fathom some of the things from the Great Depression. Their stories from WWII were equally fascinating. The notion of gas rationing, and 'drives' for various raw materials seemed quaint. Buying bonds for a greater purpose was curious.

Want to bet these things rear their ugly heads?

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alan on July 12, 2007 - 7:08pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Of course no one will 'vote' for Global Warming

So far the only Global Warming apparent to many people in the U.S. is warmer and shorter winters. Many would vote in favor of that.

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Dot on July 11, 2007 - 9:56pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

(Can someone remind me how to block quotes and reference material??)

<*blockquote>(Can someone remind me how to block quotes and reference material??)<*/blockquote>

To get this to work just remove the asterisks (ie. the *) from the text above.

To reference material, the simplest way is to cut and paste links from the address bar of your browser.

However, if you want to create in-line links inside paragraphs, the form is as follows. Again, you'll need to omit the asterisks to make it work.

Press <*a href="http://www.theoildrum.com">here<*/a> to go to The Oil Drum

If you remove the two asterisks, it will look like this.

Press here to go to The Oil Drum

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RBM on July 11, 2007 - 10:13pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

If you use firefox,

In general, any time you want to know how some HTML is coded - highlight the text of interest, right click to open
a menu and scroll down to 'view selection source' and click. That will bing up a box with the marked up text and show all tags.

Where IS that 'Theory of Everything' ?
Here
it is !

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auntiegrav on July 12, 2007 - 4:21pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Where IS that 'Theory of Everything' ?
Here
it is !

Thanks, I wondered where I left it. Apparently it was behind a Bush. The rabbit hole only begins with a TOE. Once you realize that the work is redundant, you start to comprehend the active groups working to make it insignificant in the Consumption World which doesn't WANT to know, because learning to cooperate with the universe is much harder than buying stuff.

The next thing you know, you'll be watching for UFOs and wondering why they don't land on the White House lawn.

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cyclelicious on July 12, 2007 - 1:01am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I couldn't decide what to call my post on Ms Lundberg's comments.

"Trilby Lundberg smokes crack."
"Al Qaeda sleeper terrorist exposed in CNN interview."
"Burn your money for economic prosperity."
"Give now for Latin American dictators."

the list goes on.... Sad and depressing, but not unexpected. Oh, and I found this MySpace entry in which the poster writes, "Not stuff you hear from the main stream news outlets. Kudo's to CNN for posting it."

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b3NDZ3La on July 12, 2007 - 5:32am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

How about,

"But Iago, the pity of it, Iago."

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