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Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we WILL. Humans are dumber than yeast. Maybe they are inventive, have opposable thumbs and all, but philosophically, they have the wisdom of a starved raccoon. It's amazing to me that more of us aren't found lying on the sides of our own highways.
That's because sitting on the fence means two things:
1. You have to come down to eat.
2. You are an easy target.
3. (I can't count) There isn't much profit in the middle ground unless you are a lawyer who gets paid for not solving problems, or a politician that gets paid by crooks on both sides of the fence.
Doomers like me see the long term problems as the immediate need, because we've tried to see where compromise leads, and it leads to the status quo. Things have to change. One way or another, especially how decisions are made based upon the profit motive alone. The only thing wrong with the busload of lawyers going over the cliff is that it doesn't have their accountants strapped to the roof.
We can argue about the numbers all day, but if the plan to use nuclear is only compared to using coal, then there really isn't any choice. The real question is still this: "What are we using the energy FOR?" All the talk about current consumption, reducing consumption by 'x' percent, and finding sources to 'fulfill the demands of customers' never questions the actual results of what humans are doing. It's one thing to say "we have freedom", or "we will live in harmony with our environment", but you have to ask yourself, and others, "Then what?"
What is the Net Creativity of the human race going to be, when all is said and done? What do we contribute to the universe that makes it a better place for children to grow up in? Are they really growing up, or have we created a perpetual game zone for them to exist like yeast in a petri dish?
If the petri dish is going to be contaminated anyway, then let's just burn it up now and enjoy ourselves, right?
The petri dish has existed for hundreds of millions of years, with many Net Creative species (Perhaps that includes ourselves before our 200 years of industrial toys).
Are you trying to make a better petri dish or just minimize how fast we drain it (coal) or destroy it (nuclear)? To someone who is a cornucopian or windmill salesman, my rants sound anti-technology. I am not. I am against wrongheaded technology or technology being used for the sake of the technology, not for the sake of Net Creativeness. Any technology we adapt should provide more potential(to our grandchildren) usefulness than it uses up in resources. That's a pretty simple theory. See how the things you do add up in your own mind. Rationalize any way you want, because Nature will decide in the end, not us, unless we change.
Last one out of the dish, please turn off the lights (if they still work).
Humans are dumber than yeast. Maybe they are inventive, have opposable thumbs and all, but philosophically, they have the wisdom of a starved raccoon.
It sure seems that way. On the other hand, consider the degree of social evolution we've achieved in the last couple of centuries (e.g. a semblance of racial and sexual equality). We've come a long way, far enough that I can't rule out the possibility that we will be able to meet this new challenge.
In my mind, we are in the process of transitioning from being a pre-tech species to a technological one. As technicus, we are a juvenile species, and we look pretty hopeless. But teenagers tend to be that way, and if we gave up on them, there'd be no future for the species.
What? You see a transition from one type of species to another, more highly developed one within the current human population?
Give me a break! Evolution works with hundreds and thousands of generations, not two or three.
And what part of the human population are you talking about? People like yourself? And what about the other 99.9 percent of people who are oblivious to any understanding of world systems and the oncoming crisis due to lack of or bad education, daily fight for survival, lack of IQ, misinformation by the MSM etc.?
Wake up, man!
Davidyson
I do not think we have progressed in any degree of social evolution. We just have a few more educated people around who have time to consider social issues. Look at some of the writings in biblical times - Jesus (or whoever wrote or said those words) said things that were socially very advanced (and I don't mean manipulative religous messages) - his words seem far more socially advanced than many of the ones people spout today IMHO. Of course some things that were said at the time were also painfully socially retarded, but we make plenty of such statements today too...
"You can never solve a problem on the level on which it was created."
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