There is nowhere near the panic in the market now that there was that day in 1987 Not yet anyway!

I think the Fed better step up to the plate and show the markets what its made of pretty soon. Looks like the whole pack of cards is beginning to collapse. The Fed will probably only get one shot at this.

Luminent Mortgage Says Lenders Sent Default Notices
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aAr.a3qiNLrw&refer=us

Luminent Mortgage Capital Inc., the mortgage investment company that canceled its dividend after bankers demanded more collateral, received default notices from two unnamed lenders.

``The company is continuing to vigorously explore all of its alternatives with respect to its sudden liquidity issues,'' Luminent said in a statement today...

...Luminent said this week mortgage markets have ``seized up'' amid ``unprecedented'' deterioration in the home-loan industry

Triumvirate of collapse - Economy, Ecosystem, Energy

But...but...they told us the subprime crisis was contained...that means...[sniff]...they weren't being 100% honest?

BNP Paribas's Chief Executive Officer Baudouin Prot said the bank's exposure to U.S. subprime was ``absolutely negligible'' when the company reported a 20 percent increase in second-quarter net income last week. BNP Paribas Investment Partners oversees about 356 billion euros.

Hahahaha!

Just yesterday with the DOW back up to 13,600 CNBC was celebrating BAU with those pesky subprime problems behind us. "The stock market has gotten beyond them now".
The bull market sentiment still has a long way to go though. The PTB have instilled a very deep sense that things will always get better again. So all this noise about credit and liquidity problems is nothing but a buying opportunity.

-Don

I have a very naive question about money, especially the electronic kind.

So we have a number of mortgages that were set up based on inflated house prices that have rates too high for the borrower. These loans are not being paid back causing a liquidity crunch to the institutions that created the money for the loan.

So in my simple mind, as these properties go into default and devalue, some of the money just evaporated. This is just the reverse of how the money was created in the first place, it was blinked into existence via the mortgage loan process.

The fall out of this is that the currency that was created on paper is not being paid back in reality, or at least not enough of it is getting back to the bank to maintain a positive cash flow. Ultimately this means the properties will lose value and not all of the money created will get back to the lender.

My question is this. Why can't the Fed and other central banks bail this out by giving enough cash directly to the lenders to cover their shortfalls of defaulting payments and allow them to rework their long term income stream back to a positive cash flow?

Some percentage of that mortgage created money is gone for good but the Fed can just create some new money to take its place that can be used for something other than originating mortgages.

I don't see it as a requirement that the Fed has to cover the entire defaulted value in 2007 (many of the loans must be 15 years or longer with interest accruing all the time), just keep the cash flow close to what was planned. Over time the housing stock will be revalued (but still retain value above $0) and allow everyone involved to cope with much lower profits than expected. My thinking is that all the new houses built did add assets to the economy just not nearly as much as the loan valuations projected.

I would think the goal of the Fed and Central banks is to get cash into the hands of these big originators but prevent them from using it to originate new risky loans going forward. This keeps the money circulating but gradually shrinks the risky debt back to a manageable small percentage. What's missing in my assessment of why this won't work?

Hopefully there are competing posts addressing this so I get a better scope of how the money supply works.

NC,

The Federal Reserve is restricted and cannot buy private securities (mortgage debt). This is the job of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- gov't "sponsored" enterprises (originally) to help finance mortgages and promote homeownership which the government wanted to promote. Later they were "privatized" into companies.

There was a "rumor" printed in the Financial Times recently that Fannie and Freddie are going to be authorized to buy sub-prime (which they currently don't). Offically, I think, Fannie and Freddie are "private", but hardly anyone in finance thinks that they would remain strictly "private" in a mortgage debacle. I think they have their own regulator (OFHEO is it?).

Anyhow, the government/politicians will step in once people are shown on TV getting booted out of homes, re-federalize Fannie and Freddie (turn them back into "Federal National Mortgage and Federal Home Loan or whatever they were called"), and buy sub-prime mortgages, and eat the losses -- that's what the government is for! -- the ultimate bag holder! (note to libertarians: this is where libertarian policies go astray).

Thanks for the reply.

So I take it the closer the entity is to owning mortgages (as opposed to originally providing funds to those entities) the more the Feds hands are tied. I can see that the liquidity crunch will "appear" at the level of mortgage holders and can spread in both directions - down to people owning houses and up to investers - faster than the Fed can intervene.

"faster than the Fed can intervene"

...and faster than the politicians even.

Interestingly, as I've posted elsewhere, it appears that sub-prime CDO investments were sold primarily to European and Asian investors -- so that may be why more investment blow-ups are happening overseas (while only the creators / facilitators are having problems here in the US). The ECB is doing much more "stabilizing" right now than the Fed.

A funny anecdote recently is that a US hedge fund was suing a mortgage servicing bank for re-structuring delinquent loans in a portfolio of sub-primes (which is the bank's fiduciary responsibility) because the hedge fund was "short" the mortgages -- what this means is that the hedge fund, which already had a 90% profit on the short position, wanted the banks to default the loans so the hedgies could make more money. Can you image the trial? -- "We've made 90%, and the bank is preventing us from making more! Kick those squatters out!". Good luck with a jury on that one.

Well they just did;

Fed Adds $19 Billion in Funds by Buying Mortgage Debt (Update3)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aZ.cxsJa71xg&refer=home

So the federal government, which is running a deficit (aka debt) is using debt money to buy debt money which was probably chasing after debt money to begin with. And this is supposed to make people feel better? Right.