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Black_Dog on September 1, 2007 - 2:17pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Nate, thanks for posting that link to the Berndt's summary paper about the Technocrats. I studied Georgescue-Roegen, Howard Odum, Bruce Hannon, Herman Daly, Robert Costanza and others in the 1970's and early 1980's, but was not aware that such ideas had been discussed much earlier. It was quite an eye opener to learn that Hubbert was so active before WW II. I guess I'm a Technocrat in the sense that I think the U.S. will need to ration transportation fuel, once Peak Oil kicks in. I thought I had some profound "new" idea, but it's just another of my re-inventions of the wheel, as we engineers say (note oblique reference to Hermann Hesse's "Beneath the Wheel"). Looks like I need to do more reading...

E. Swanson

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Nate Hagens on September 2, 2007 - 12:54pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks - Ive had many similar 'light bulbs' go off in my head in the last few years - thinking Ive stumbled on some new important synthesis, I google it and many of the ideas are 30 years old. And alot of them lead back to Herman Daly or Howard Odum.

The good news is, that if independent thinking minds come to these conclusions on their own (without being taught), it lends robustness to the concepts.

An energy theory of value is true - its just how to make it practical is the problem - as Schlesinger said - we have two modes towards energy - complacency and panic

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