I have talked to several older people that "escaped" New Orleans as young adults to the suburbs (white flight). They still have a nostalgia for the old neighborhoods and the relationships there and think of moving back on occasion.

When asked, they will say is was never like that in the Suburbs.

Walking and talking and spending time outside are, I think, the keys. And if we can do this in the heat & humidity of New Orleans, anyone can :-)

But I think race was a major factor.

Alan

Alan,

I am in your fair city today and I am ensconced at Cafe Rose Nicaud on Frenchman Street. A lovely area and one unlike to those I find in the racist suburbs of my backward city Dayton, Ohio. I agree that people wanted to live in a semi farm setting with the amenities of the city but the Johnson administration's civil rights policies did not work for Dayton. It did not heal the rifts from the Civil War or Civil Rights movements. This one size fits all did not work for Dayton, with no geographical barriers to growth. Whites took their money and political power and drove infrastructure growth to the suburbs.

Of course Dayton is observing rapid population decline coupled with an astronomical foreclosure rate at the same time the local planning council is constructing a new sprawl inducing interchange south of the City. Dayton is going to reap the whirlwind, but in the next 5 years you may be able to get a free house in Downtown Dayton as long as you can pay the property Tax.

How long will you be in town ?

Perhaps we could meet. I have not tried Cafe Rose Nicaud.

Best Hopes,

Alan

Alan,

I am in town today (Sun) and then I drive to the Cane River NP to do some work and I will return to NO on Thursday the 23rd and I leave Saturday at 1200. Thursday Night or anytime on Friday the 24th. I would enjoy discussing relationships between our cities connected by electric trolleys and the river. The Great Miami flows through Dayton on the way to the Ohio.

I saw a nice local band at dba on Saturday.

Hope we can connect.

Greg
ghunter@mannus.com

I recommend editing you remark and deleting eMail address. "bots can gather it for spam.

Sent you an eMail.

Alan

Print that offer in Spanish and you'll get more takers than the INS can catch.

"My City Was Gone"
-The Pretenders

I WENT BACK TO OHIO
BUT MY CITY WAS GONE
THERE WAS NO TRAIN STATION
THERE WAS NO DOWNTOWN
SOUTH HOWARD HAD DISAPPEARED
ALL MY FAVORITE PLACES
MY CITY HAD BEEN PULLED DOWN
REDUCED TO PARKING SPACES
A, O, WAY TO GO OHIO

WELL I WENT BACK TO OHIO
BUT MY FAMILY WAS GONE
I STOOD ON THE BACK PORCH
THERE WAS NOBODY HOME
I WAS STUNNED AND AMAZED
MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES
SLOWLY SWIRLED PAST
LIKE THE WIND THROUGH THE TREES
A, O, OH WAY TO GO OHIO

I WENT BACK TO OHIO
BUT MY PRETTY COUNTRYSIDE
HAD BEEN PAVED DOWN THE MIDDLE
BY A GOVERNMENT THAT HAD NO PRIDE
THE FARMS OF OHIO
HAD BEEN REPLACED BY SHOPPING MALLS
AND MUZAK FILLED THE AIR
FROM SENECA TO CUYAHOGA FALLS
SAID, A, O, OH WAY TO GO OHIO

The Pretenders backed up The Who last fall in Minneapolis and this night they stole the show.

special meaning for me, I grew up in Cuyahoga Falls.

Too bad Limbaugh uses that music on his show.

There have been lots of claims as to why the suburban explosion happened after World War Two. The popular one among city planners is that the Interstate Highway system caused the rapid suburban growth. I think this was more an effect than a cause. In reality I think it was a confluence of many things. Cheap energy, good roads, GI’s returning and wanting their house “in the country,” government policies (FHA, GI bill), herd mentality, and yes racism.

Two racist practices fueled suburban growth: red lining and block busting. In block busting and unscrupulous real estate agent would work to move a black family into a working class white block. Then he would go to all the neighbors and say that “those people” are moving into the neighborhood and you all know what will happen to your property values….. BUT luckily Mr. unscrupulous agent is here to sell your house for you. There are stories of blocks turning over in a couple of weeks from this practice. It was only successful because of racist attitudes of the whites who lived there. The newly formed black neighborhood was then likely red lined. This is a practice by banks where they would not loan money to certain neighborhoods usually based on race. The neighborhood would into decline do to lack of investment further pushing the middle class out to the burbs.

In a funny turn of events, many of those areas in the biggest cities are now being gentrified back into expensive places to live. The boomers who fled these areas can no longer afford to move back. They should have kept the land. Over the long term it would have been a good investment,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbusting

"No man who owns his own house and lot can be a Communist. He has too much to do." (Bill Levitt - 1948)