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doug fir on September 15, 2007 - 11:31pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

My, what a surprise.

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PartyGuy on September 16, 2007 - 12:57am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Oh come off it :P Aside from the crack pot Republicans, who DIDN'T think the war was all about oil? :P

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bmcnett on September 16, 2007 - 1:50am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Republicans I know understand clearly it's about oil, but don't say so because those lines aren't in the script.

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DIYer on September 16, 2007 - 9:39am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Oh, OK. Not crackpots then. Sock puppets.

| The problem will solve itself.
|  But not in a nice way.

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new account on September 16, 2007 - 10:37am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top



Forget the tiger! Put 1.2 million Iraqis in your tank!

Greenspan's damning comments about the war come as a survey of Iraqis, which was released last week, claims that up to 1.2 million people may have died because of the conflict in Iraq - lending weight to a 2006 survey in the Lancet that reported similarly high levels.


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2170237,00.html



This is more killing than Saddham accomplished. A proud accomplishment for America and Americans.

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new account on September 16, 2007 - 1:59pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top



For numerical perspective:

In 1991 after the Iraqi forces were expelled from Kuwait, the regime of Saddam Hussein cracked down on uprisings in the Kurdish north and Shia south. It is stated between this time over 40,000 Kurds were executed and 60,000 or more Shi'ites.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq



It should be noted that some of this killing was undertaken with chemical weapons. The precursor chemicals and related technology had been supplied to Saddam by the USA.


It is a good thing that the western nations have immense respect for the sanctity of life and that the term "genocide" has no application to ragheads.

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Gilgamesh on September 16, 2007 - 2:10pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

saddam was trying to rule people, not kill them all.

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super390 on September 16, 2007 - 4:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It is much easier to create a colony if you eliminate the existing population. Ask the Israelis' George Washington:

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"Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

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In fairness, his contemporary Jabotinsky said the Arabs had to be wiped out as the Americans had the Indians. So it's not like we haven't done this before.

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new account on September 16, 2007 - 6:40pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top



Especially if you can eliminate the existing population without leaving home:

The Air Force plans to deploy 170 Predators and 70 Reapers over the next three years. "It is possible that in our lifetime we will be able to run a war without ever leaving the US," Lt Col David Branham told the New York Times.


The result of the stepped up air war, according to the London-based organization Iraq Body Count, is an increase in civilian casualties. A Lancet study of "excess deaths" caused by the Iraq war found that air attacks were responsible for 13% of the deaths — 76,000 as of June 2006 — and that 50% of the deaths of children under 15 were caused by air strikes.


http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4511

And the Americans wonder why the Iraqis are trying to kill them and drive them out of Iraq. And Der BushFuhrer claims that this is making the American people safer?

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marcosdumay on September 16, 2007 - 2:04pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I didn't. I always tought it was mainly about moving govenrment's money into private (contractors) hands.

But I am much more surprised to see that the US governemnt really belived that war was a viable solution than simply discovering that it was all about oil. There is no better way to spend oil than wars.

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eric blair on September 17, 2007 - 8:43am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

who DIDN'T think the war was all about oil

I do not.

Many interests are at play.

1) Economy 'needing a bubble' to avoid recession - putting money into items that are consumed/destroyed/does not produce additional productivity is a fine 'sink' for money
2) If you are on the "military" side of the "military industrial Congressional complex." means a check will be written to you.
3) The People and The Constitution cuts a "war time President" slack/gives The Leader extra-special power.
4) Sadam:
4a) Made a mistake of believing another Bush's statement - the one about foreign adventurism
4b) Wanted to break the dollar's power - and did what he could.
5) A previously pliable leader was becoming less flexible - why not replace him?

And one that gets little play:

6) Potable water. Iraq has "more" than many in that region. One web page back 2-3 years ago made a claim that global rainfall changes will only help Iraq's rainfall changes - but I have no idea how true that is, what with GW and rainfall being in the future and all.

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