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203 comments on DrumBeat: September 16, 2007

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LevinK on September 16, 2007 - 11:00am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Basic physics aside the article and the schema don't explain one thing: they claim that the reaction is taking place in a mixture of water, potassium carbonate and that "secret catalyst". After the heated water escapes, obviously the dissolved carbonate and "secret catalyst" also escape with it... where does the device continuously inject those compounds in the incoming water? How much would I need for a liter? Per joule of produced heat? Were they factored in the EROEI? Oh right, they can't because that catalyst is a secret... LOL

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Black_Dog on September 16, 2007 - 12:28pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

From the diagram, it looks like the reaction fluid does not escape from the device. The energy is transfered to the water flowing via a heat exchanger. The result may be a very efficient water heater, but the claim that there's more energy produced than that of the electric supply would violate basic physics. It should be very easy to test the claim that this device produces more energy than that supplied, so one must consider the statements by the university folks to be of some merit.

E. Swanson

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LevinK on September 16, 2007 - 1:20pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Ooops. You are right, the diagram shows just that.

In this case the question remains where does the extra energy come from? If it is indeed from some undiscovered lower energy state of water, then how long before the water in the initial mix becomes "exhausted"? Or it endlessly goes down the energy curve?!? Could this be some sort of cold fusion? Either way sounds like a complete BS to me.

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Earthbound Misfit on September 16, 2007 - 7:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I thought it was perfectly obvious: the energy surplus is being tapped from another dimension. Imagine their outrage when the beings from that dimension discover what we're up to...

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LevinK on September 16, 2007 - 8:12pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

LOL! Didn't you borrow this from one of the Asimov's novels? "The Gods Themselves"?

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ResponsibleAccountable on September 16, 2007 - 9:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It's gonna be the thiotimoline with it's four bonds at 90 degrees to each other that saves us, right?
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