If petroleum product pipelines could not cross rivers for "fear of leaking," then there would be no petroleum product pipelines anywhere. Within a tolerable degree, I believe that problem was solved a century ago, but maybe North Dakota has not found that out yet.

Iraq seems to have a big problem with oil pipelines leaking into their rivers.

And you're implying that black swans don't exist.

Like the Exxon Valdez and Chernobyl.

There's a good reason that NIMBY's are a growing segment of our pop.

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Iraq seems to have a big problem with oil pipelines leaking into their rivers.

Google some picture from Nigeria sometime. Horrible.

"Solved" does not mean that leaks never happen. What most of us do not have here is data that tells us what the rate of leakage ought to be, along with what the rate of leakage actually is. The first number would tell us what is technically feasible. The second number would tell us how close the oil companies are to maintaining that feasibility or if they are slacking off and letting pipelines corrode away (as we saw with BP on the north slope). Does anyone here have access to that sort of data or something similar that would allow us to get a good idea of whether these political concerns are realistic or not?

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