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Leanan on October 13, 2007 - 9:41am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The difference, of course, is that for the vast majority of people, the idea that civilization will collapse any time soon is ridiculous. Might as well prepare for an invasion by Martians. Heck, in the US, there are probably more people preparing for the Rapture than preparing for a Mad Max future.

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mcgowanmc on October 13, 2007 - 12:58pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Pic (s) of the Day.

Courtesy Survivalacres:

Before:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/19790211.png

After:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/20070905.jpg

Arkansaw of Samuel L Clemens

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step back on October 13, 2007 - 1:23pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Definitely some good shipping lanes up North in the "After" scenario :-)

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garyp on October 13, 2007 - 1:38pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Err, its not a 'scenario'.

Look at the filename.

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SacredCowTipper on October 13, 2007 - 2:14pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Apples ...

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/19781026.png

to Apples:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ARCHIVE/20071012.jpg

Almost as visually impressive and no winter vs. summer controversy - the images are twenty nine years apart but at roughly the same time of the year.

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souperman2 on October 13, 2007 - 4:02pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It looks like we are moving from the large,whole house ducted HVAC system to the the little bread box sized unit ratteling away wedged in window.

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Aniya on October 15, 2007 - 1:46am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Thanks for the links, SCT.

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musashi on October 13, 2007 - 4:12pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Mad Max is a lot more fun.

No rules. Just right.

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CEOJr1963 on October 14, 2007 - 2:57am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

As A Southern Christian I will vouch for that comment. It pains me to see so many people that have plainly just not taken the time to Look into their Bibles and read further. But then again I am a Lutheran by "demonation" yes that is misspelled for a reason. There should only be One Christian Chruch and there is, but God is the one counting the heads not the local Ushers.

Every time a person dies IMHO(Humble) there is a Rapture event. But I digress.

I am a eat your yard kind of plant grower. But that also means I am out there looking for every edible plant from here to kentucky, or in my case everywhere I can walk. Which currently with a hurt ankle and a bad knee is only about 5 miles per day. But as they get stronger I have a walking radius of about 10 miles I figure in my max city walking. 2 weeks ago it was 6 miles of radius. God willing and my own stubborn streak I will be up to the 10 mile radius in about 3 weeks.

Survival is not on the minds of anyone much, expect the trully Homeless, which I work with everyday. The General public is just not geared to survival. That is where folks like us will come in handy later in the years to come. Sharing Our hard earned skills, if the end does not bring war and famine on the scales it could bring.

God Grant you peace.
God Grant you Love of your fellow man.
God Grant you Faith and Trust.
Write in Candidate for President 2008.
Free Right Now party. No donations.
No wage over Lowest wage in the land.
Term limits for congress, 2 for Senate, 3 fo

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Bandits on October 14, 2007 - 5:34pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hello CEOJr1963

I'm no Christian and I don't believe in a God or Santa Clause and I also don't feel the need to profess by beliefs or non beliefs in every post I make.
Would you be offended if I proclaimed in every post that there was no God?

Apart from that I recognize that you are a sincere, good and righteous person and I admire you for understanding their plight and willingness to help the less fortunate when the affects of PO and GW become entrenched.

What does offend me though are those who have their acres and bunkers in the hills, with food stored for years and continually push entirely unrealistic options for the survival of everyone, they even tell us how they will defend their property but complain about the price of bullets.

They argue electric cars, solar panels on every roof and wind mills by the millions will save the day, logistics is never mentioned or considered. They tell us what they have, and what they have achieved, inferring how smart they are. They tell us what can be done but never, never tell us how it will happen.

They are truly representative of the overall psychopathic human race, their creed is FYJ and they live by it.

A bunker mentality will not save many. Community cooperation is the only defence against a world of scarce energy and food. Not that I think enough cooperation will eventuate, I just hope it will.

Enough of a rant for one day.

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