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Reading the previous thread, "You might have heard that CLZ07 went through $90 today..." makes me wonder.
What if KSA has decided that Gee Dubyah and associates aren't their friends anymore? Given their culture, I've always thought that Condi isn't someone they would pay much attention to. While they were clearly happy to see Saddam neutralized and they are worried that Iran might win in Iraq, I doubt that they would be interested in a U.S. war with Iran. Maybe they've decided to pull the plug on the neocons. If the price of oil stays high thru the election, Joe Sixpack and Billy FourWheeler (I like that one) will be in a hanging mood and the Repuglicans will find themselves buried in a landslide. I'm afraid that we are in for an interesting year until next November. Just a thought....
E. Swanson
As long as gasoline stays stable they'll get a free ride on the dollar having tanked because the electorate isn't paying attention to the exchange rates - yet. Put the dollar back where it was a year ago and recalculate. Maybe it's time to present the oil price in a basket of currencies to give a more accurate picture of what's really happening. As I see it, oil is really about $65 and the dollar tanked, but that's never on the news.
Petrosaurus- whereas you may have a valid point in your reflections –
(full sarcanol-alert issued, with a tad of moral-lesson)
- I from my neck of the woods believe there is “a divine finger” pointing at the the most thoughtless crowd among us earthlings – namely the American-earthlings and in particular their leaders and voters - and non-voters.. hey that actually make up all Americans..
“The divine finger” simply zooms and beams the main-cost-change at the $-users who are the very worst among them energy_may_run_out- AND climate_may_cause_damage -Deniers .. their way of understanding natural recourses and their limitations is simply not permitted by “the finger”, or should I say lack of understanding .. as in NONE at all -
:-)
The Republicans are already giving up the White House and they may have to hand over a supermajority in both the House and Senate. This is the national mood before the ARM scam unwinds next spring.
Its like a domestic dispute where both parties are bloodied when the police cars arrive. Someone is going to have some consequences and its just a question of whether the neocon/disloyal Christian Right shadow coup moves forward or the 75%+ of the population who don't agree have a nice, juicy housecleaning.
I'm personally in favor of ejecting a whole bunch of Republicans, investigating, prosecuting, and incarcerating some more, and shipping those who've earned it off to the Hague for a war crimes tribunal. This attitude of desiring the rule of the law to take its course makes me into things like a phony American and a terrorist sympathizer, one who hates our freedoms.
Oh, and along with the executive and legislative branch problems I really want someone to pull the plug on the right wing noise machine, starting with Bill O'Reilly, who should be sentenced to 84 days of scrubbing toilets at Fort Bragg as an apology for slandering those Rangers who were executed by the SS on December 17th, 1944.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606030002
this assumes Democrats actually get their act together and take advantage of this - i am not convinced they won't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
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All these memories will be lost in time
like tears in rain
Someone called 'em DemocRats and I think I'm gonna start using that myself.
I am personally more interested in portions of the Progressive agenda, but there is much not to love there. There is simply no use for this radical feminist nonsense - they are the DemocRats' moral equivalent of the disloyal Christian Right and we'll have to watch them almost as closely. I could not care less what two adult men want to do in their own home but the gay rights focus concerns me - if that carries through I'd like to see it come through as the right to life, liberty, and property for all, with their concerns being addressed as a byproduct rather than a focus.
What is good about the DemocRats is the strong probability that single payer health care will come to pass and the foolish bankruptcy bill will be rolled back. These two things greatly constrain the creativity of the American people at a time when we need to take risks and try new things as we adapt to peak oil. They are also far more likely to make the correct moves for the environment and I look forward to again having a reality based foreign policy for our country.
The Republicans are just laughable. I'd much rather stick around and correct the DemocRats' confusion regarding the second amendment than have to stand over the Republicans watching each and every thing they do with my fingers crossed they'll listen to the 3/4ths of us who aren't religious fanatics. Bush has totally and completely ruined the Republican franchise and I really expect the party to splinter and die, leaving a radical Christian bit and the remainder will cleave to the center, perhaps later causing a split in the DemocRatic party with their radicals going their own way.
The part people don't realize is that the DemocRats are owned by the same interests as the NeoCons and there would be no change whatsoever in foreign policy.
The only change would be a ruinous wealth transfer to illegals, a sure one way ticket to Zimbabwe.
People didn't vote for Perot then and will not vote for Ron Paul in enough numbers now.
But he is the only hope for us.
You should spend a little less time listening to Rush Limbaugh and a little more time talking with your neighbors. The only ruinous wealth transfer we've seen in this country is the Bush war funded by tax cuts(!) and the privatize and loot dance they do so well.
And if you think foreign policy wouldn't be different you're really not paying attention.
There's plenty of room for debate about illegals, ruinous wealth transfer, etc. But one thing I feel pretty confident in saying is that Rush Limbaugh - a big cheerleader for the Iraq war - isn't supporting Ron Paul for president.
I have a quite wide range of friends, associates and hang arounds and none of them is really wealthy. Anything from small business owners to professionals and blue collar craftsmen.
Out of several hundred people only two are left wing, and they both are in CA. They are entertaining up to a point.
Many would like to see different conservative leadership though, so to that extent we agree.
Hang around long enough and you might just see the Hillabeast bomb Iran while we are laying on a South American beach with an umbrella drink watching the girls.
See, I actually hope you can convince a bunch of people to try it your way, we don't want the beach to be crowded.
The South Americans will be shooting at you because of how they suffered under our attempts to impose "free enterprise" on them the last 20 years. That's what you get for thinking that your right-wing friends aren't wealthy when they make 20 times what folks down there do.
And Musashi, where do you get off damning "inferior", "criminal", "lazy" Latin immigrants at every opportunity, and thinking you can just move to their lands whenever you need someone new to exploit?
There are all sorts of Latin Americans as there are all sorts of people here.
I lived in several Latin American countries long enough to understand them quite well.
There is no doubt in my mind that the upper class in countries like Mexico actively encourages their unemployable social loads to move north. In that sense they are a political football or victims if you wish, but they are the financial responsibility of their own government and not of the American taxpayer.
The same Mexican officials that whine at us actively discourage immigration into their own country by force at their southern border. Like everyone else around here, they want it both ways.
From reading some of your other posts it is clear that you should be able to understand what is going on easily, even if it doesn't fit your views. It is what it is.
That is an unsupportable pile of monkey poo that you've just dumped in this thread, sir.
The United States did receive a good lot of undesirables ... from Cuba ... once ... a long time ago. The Cuban government simply drained about 2,500 behavior problems from the prison system and stirred them in with the 125,000 who came here during the Marielito boat lift.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marielito
Other than this one event a generation ago the people we see coming from Central and South America are generally industrious, law abiding, and very much following in the footsteps of every ethnic group who ever migrated to this country. Most articles I see on the matter indicate concern over the brain drain happening in Mexico as their best and brightest come north, but I do tend to read liberal crap like The Economist and Foreign Affairs. I suppose you've got some peer reviewed wingnuttery that counters this assessment?
You read too much BS.
The truth is that most Mexican professionals don't even want to live here. I have a number of friends down there, they may have studied here, they may come to shop here from time to time but they don't want to live here. Some that came here legally moved back.
IMO there also is no comparison to the Cuban people, I don't know that situation first hand but my impression is that it was a purely political situation.
The situation with the Mexican indians, for lack of a better term, is purely driven by economics on all sides. Their real enemy is their own government. Guess what? They don't want to be here either.
This is a very different situation from a generation or two ago, when people that came here even for economic reasons actually wanted to be integrated into our culture.
You guys can say whatever you want, I spent better then half my 20+ years all over Latin America and know along which lines the various people generally think.
I still ride my bike down there when I feel like it. Nothing happens. The only country down there I wouldn't go alone is Colombia, other then that, no big deal.
musashi--
I agree with your comments about Columbia---
Totally off the charts, if you are looking for edge (interrogation by the Columbian Secret Police, DAS, was one of my most unpleasant memories).
Your economic analysis is totally wrong from my experience, having driven the length of Mexico and Central America several times.
You really should educate yourself and visit Argentina, the best model for economic new ideas so far. Latin America is the one bright spot on the planet.
Anyway, with the collapse of the Mexican oil situation, things are going to get interesting fast. I spent last February down in Guerrero, and outright rebellion and supervision is happening now in society.
I have rich friends in Mexico City, and even they see the end.
You need a more developed analysis.
(Not your fault, probably clueless gringo drifting through life)