If it was necessary to spend 12 million pounds to discern the effect, then it must be far too insignificant to justify paying triple for the foods in question. But it will give yuppie foodies something new to obsess about.

It mostly gives the global agri-business another handle to market their products. "Organic" is the new mantra -- and the US Dept of Agriculture has obligingly twisted the original (and sensible) meaning of the term to embrace all sorts of mischief. Such as factory farming spinach and pork and beef -- all "organic" of course -- that has recently been notorious for spreading disease.

Yea, my local target for example sells supposidly organic liquid milk that claims on the box it doesn't even need to be refridgerated..

I don't think UHT sterilization would preclude milk from carrying an "organic" label. Perhaps that's what they did?

I don't know it says nothing ont he label as to what processes it went through other then being labeled 'organic'

EU doesn't allow calling organic milk that has been homogenized or UHT treated. Don't know about your country.

I don't believe that, do you have any proof? It sounds like another EU "straight banana" myth.

I've seen organic milk on sale that is UHT or pasteurised, and I don't see why homogenisation would preclude an organic tag either (it's a mechanical process).

This is 2nd hand knowledge from our milk producer locally. They sell organic milk and they say EU doesn't allow for homogenization or UHT.

Also, all of our organic milk sale in FIN is NOT UHT or homogenised.

I'd have to find the corresponding directive in an EU database, to make sure it's true... :)

I tried at EUROPA > EUR-Lex > ADVANCED SEARCH , but only got error messages.

So, you could be right, but currently I go with the producer, until I get evidence of otherwise.

For "Organic" let the buyer beware. Many packaged "Organic" foods at Health Food Stores AND at Whole Foods are not labelled with the country of origin. The Grocery Store industry has fought tooth and nail to delay rules requiring country of origin labelling for foods.

Many countries use "conduit" countries for their food. E.g. the package may say Made in Canada but an importer based in Canada may have imported the food, maybe processed or packaged it and then sold it as Canadian.

A lot of feed for Organic dairy and meat animals is being imported and that is putting downward pressure on domestic prices of Organic feed. Auditing and Organic standards for foreign producers including very large and powerful countries are different and often inferior.

If you can be assured that the product is Organic then it is great for you and the environment. But it is a jungle out there.

Of course melamine is organic. You'll find it on the shelf in your organic lab. So it's all good, see?

The problem will solve itself.
But not in a nice way.

The cost of organic food is the REAL cost of sustainable production. Industrial non organic farming is strip mining the soil. The 'cheapness' of industrially farmed food is a transient oil dependant phenomenon. The only food available in the future will be organically farmed, get used to it!

No it's not but it's closer to the real cost then non-organic. organic food still uses some fossil fuel inputs.