Bob,

Thanks for the info about NPK.

If you are a fast-crash realist, how do you think Phoenix and the Southwest US will fare with a fast crash? Is there enough water for permaculture to sustain much of a human population?

Thanks,
Colin

Hello SprinklerintheRain,

Nope, the Southwest pop. will go the same as the ancient Anasazi. I suspect Phoenix and other cities will be mostly ghost towns. I expect to be an early Thermo/Gene victim--such is life. The future belongs to the young: always has, always will.

Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?

Bob,bob,bob.....

all you have to do is get in your vehicle,,or start hiking..and Head East young man.

Go til you hit the largest river in the USA..the Mississippi River..you will have plenty of H2O..just on the west bank and the furtherest south you can go in Missouri is the bootheel..some very rich soil...

Why fight it and then die?

Nice blue cat are caught locally out of that river...lots of folks think they are prime eating. In some places you can catch crawdads,,which Nawlins prizes. And there is so much fertilizer it 'runs off' the fields. Just a tad south is lots of rice grown in NE ArkansaW. Site of the famed Jonesboro troubled-boy shooting.

Heck ,ride a bicycle...See America..check out the Route 66 local hot spots and motels of ye oldense dayses. Stop off in Tulsa at the HD dealer for some down home dining car chow.

Lots to see and do in the USA. Land of the free and home of the brave.....

airdale