Hi Alan

Not sure if you know this but Garry is very much a light rail kind of guy. If you Google his name and light rail you get this.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=garry+glazebrook+%26+light+rail&...

Here is one of his studies for light rail in Sydney

http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/Pages/Downloads.aspx/12/22/Gary%20Glaz...

The State govt is against light rail. Buses preferrred solution.

From one of the articles in Herald

The Minister for Transport, John Watkins, said yesterday that the light rail solution was simplistic in tackling Sydney's congestion. "I'm not convinced that whacking light rail tracks down one or two of our major city streets is the answer to congestion in Sydney because it means you would have to ban motor vehicles from those streets," he said.

Garry was being pragmatic and trying to work with what will be available.

Mind you he would love to see light rail return to the streets.

Best hope for changes in State govt thinking.

Dave B

Wow, Watkins is a real idiot.

"But if you have trams, you'll have far less cars on the street. You are aware that trams are bigger and can carry more people than cars, Minister?"

I just googled this quote from Watkins. It is here:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/the-future-of-bus-city--clogged-stre...

From January 10th, 2006. I doubt that - 20 months later - he has understood that peak oil is knocking at the door and that we'll have no other choice than light rail because that's the fastest high capacity system you can build up quickly and in a diesel shortage environment. Watkins is now dreaming of a Maroubra - Ryde metro, much too late.

A street car will add way more capacity than adding another lane for cars, because you can fit so many people in them, so those who still drive should find their journey faster with less lanes available. The principle is that you can't built your way out of congestion by building roads, because they simply fill up with insatiable demand that is stimulated by more road capacity. But can build your way out by building high capacity public transport. Copenhagen realised long ago that the only way to reduce congestion was to cut the number and width of roads and reduce parking spaces (slowly, progressively over time, combined with commensurate public transport investment).