Sure they are hoarding cash, but why in only one market if that were the driving reason in this case?

Citibank limits ATM cash in city

A jump in ATM fraud led Citibank to slash the maximum amount of cash available to customers from their accounts - a security move greeted warily Wednesday by its patrons. The new cap on cash kicked out by the company's ATMs began in mid-December after what Citibank called "isolated fraudulent activity" around the city.

The bank, with 134 branches around town, would not say how many customers were affected or how much money was involved. One Brooklyn woman said she went to her bank branch on Christmas Eve and was unable to take out her normal cash limit, so she called customer assistance.

"She told me customer accounts had been hacked into through cash machines around the city," the woman said. "As a result, the bank had decided to slash how much customers could withdraw from their own accounts. They cut my amount in half. "She said most New York customers were affected and she suggested I change my password."

There's no mention of card theft anywhere in the report, or coming from Citi. Also, no mention of anyone whose account was plundered. To justify such draconian measures, you'd think large scale crime would need to be perpetrated. Did someone print thousands of cards? How practical is that? You'd need an army of people to go to ATM's and get the cash, one would think. Hard to keep quiet. Luckily, help is on its way when most needed:

SmartMetric Biometric Card Will Make Passwords a Thing of the Past and Provide a Level of Security That Will Thwart the Modern Day Electronic Thieves

SmartMetric, responding to media reports of the problem of ATM fraud faced by the country's largest Banks, said the SmartMetric finger print activated Biometric ATM / Credit Card is a technology that will better defend against the modern day electronic thieves and fraudsters.

The New York-based Daily News reported today that Citibank has limited the cash amount its customers can take out of ATM machines. It is being reported that the security of Citibank's ATM machines in New York have been seriously compromised by fraud. According to media reports, a spokesperson for Citibank has stated that "Though we can't provide details of ongoing security investigations, we are working closely with law enforcement on this matter." Citibank declined to specify the amount of the new withdrawal cap.

SmartMetric has created a card that doesn't use passwords that can be hacked or stolen but rather uses the person's fingerprint to turn the card on. The ATM customer places his or her finger on the card and in less than a second the card scans the person's fingerprint and if it is them the card will be activated. If it is not the owner of the card then the card will not work.

I had seen the claim and it sounds sort of fishy.

Perhaps it is some other sort of security issue.

Without getting into detail, everyone knows that Citi (and one other NY bank) is the way to get funds in and out of the country without being "excessively inconvenienced". Maybe they were trying to keep funds from going to specific people in the general area to the extent they could without raising questions.

Just FYI, I went and made all the first of the year tax related transactions today and there is no limit whatsoever at Chase and BofA.
Not even the slightest perception of reluctance to execute the transactions.

..why in only one market...

Look at it as a "TEST" market. Test reactions.

BELIEVE me the Fed and CB's have studied, and are preparing for Bank Runs. This is only one small step.

People with hundreds of thousands of dollars in electronic reality(Banks accounts, 401k's pensions...) will learn soon enough that just because you have some piece of paper saying you own xxxx amount somewhere...... Well, lets just say that POSSESSION is 9/10ths...

You can have what we say you can have of "Your Money"

Did you see the TV Commercial of people in line using Credit Cards(Debt Cards) and the place is running smoothly, then someone in line throws a monkey wrench into the works and uses cash. Did you see that commercial?

Imagine in the future, when the only people using cash were "Terrorists" by definition? Or as the bumber sticker would say, "Only Terrorists and Drug Dealers use Cash"

People in Argentina could only have about 1000 pesos per month from their bank account regardless of how much they had in the bank.

Learn from their lession.

Future Customer at bank window:

Why did you say you wanted your money Mr. Jones? We are authorized to let you have $3,000 a month. We reviewed your monthly auto deposit history, then balanced it against the data bank of how many payments you make per month and determined you only require $3,000 a month. Why on earth would ANYONE want to close their account out to CASH Mr. Jones? A transfer to another subsidiary, I mean bank, would be ok. But Cash?

BTW, Mr. Jones we really appreciate you looking the other way a few years back when you were told that all your electronic transactions were being monitored and shared by the Gov and Corporations on your behalf, you made this more efficient system possible.

Many many "Thin Man"s

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?

John,

This post from George Ure, part of a Finance Round-Up, came to mind immediately"

Trouble Indicator? Limits on Savings Bond Purchases
Dec 17 2007

Continuing yesterday's report, where I suggested that the Fed is getting ready for some serious financial problems, another example of how the 'wagons are being circled' has come up. This was in an email from a "C-level" (ceo, coo, cfo etc) type of a national bank which shall remain unnamed:

"I wasn’t sure where people were getting info about bank restrictions. Then today I got notice that, starting 1/08, savings bonds purchases will be limited to $5000/yr per SSN.

We haven’t heard anything about restrictions on wires.

While I don’t disagree with your conclusion about where these things are headed, I gotta tell you that the initiative for monitoring and restrictions is coming from government, not the banks. Believe me, I wouldn’t be doing half the things I have to if it weren’t for regulatory mandate."

Not to take this fellows word for it without checking, I clicked over to the TreasuryDirect web site and sure enough:

Annual Purchase Limit For Savings Bonds Set at $5,000

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 3, 2007

The annual limitation on purchases of United States Savings Bonds will be set at $5,000 per Social Security Number, effective January 1, 2008. The limit applies separately to Series EE and Series I savings bonds, and separately to bonds issued in paper or electronic form. Under the new rules, an individual can buy a maximum of $5,000 worth of electronic and paper bonds of each series in a single calendar year, or a total of $20,000, in single ownership form. If paper bonds are issued in co-ownership form, the limit applies to the first-named co-owner. All limits are based on the issue price of the securities.

iLargi

Thanks. It seems you and I went to different schools together :-)

I read George every morning. I read that one too.

Here's from today's UrbanSurvival.

Getting Tactical

This weekend, as if you wouldn't expect it given the market's butt kicking on Friday, I'm working on some 'lines in the sand' for Peoplenomics subscribers.

The reason? Next week, there's a chance one, or both, of these threshold levels could be tested and we appear to be only two technical lines away from the possibility of complete financial collapse.

and about the cash that I was mentioning...

Cashless Coming

Another move toward a cashless society as the Treasury plans social security debit card. Ah, remember a month or two back in Peoplenomics when I told you this would be the game? Mark of the what?

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0428123620080104

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Here's the extent of the article.

Treasury plans social security debit card: report

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department is set to offer a prepaid debit card for Social Security recipients, and has chosen Dallas-based Comerica Bank as the card issuer, The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday.

The report said the card is targeted at Social Security and Supplemental Security Income recipients who don't have bank accounts, and is also aimed at providing cheaper and more secure payments by shifting away from paper checks.

Comerica Bank is a subsidiary of Comerica Inc.

Now go back everyone and read my post above starting with...

"Only Terrorists and Drug Dealers use Cash"
(By the NEW definition coming your way)

And reread the imaginary conversation or is that a Future conversation?

Future Customer at bank window:......

It is a possibility and I make allowances for it, but there is more then one agenda out there.

We see how the cookie crumbles, no question in my mind that the system is evil, but incompetence is their Achilles heel.

Not that they have to be incompetent, but the huge incompetent masses they used to advance their agenda is also what will make implementation of anything on the surface either way, slow. Getting anything done that involves more then a handful of private citizens these days is like swimming in molasses.