![]() | Nuclear Britain | The Oil Drum | Now We're Talkin'...(or, "Transit Panel Urges Federal Gas Tax Increase") | ![]() |
21 comments on Turkmenistan learns a lesson
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
21 comments on Turkmenistan learns a lesson
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
Search The Oil Drum with Google
Support The Oil Drum
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Campfire
TOD:Europe
- Peak Gold, Easier to Model than Peak Oil? - Part I
- Carbon Capture and Storage
- Oilwatch Monthly November 2009
TOD:Canada
- In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
- The Round-Up: October 24, 2008
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
TOD:Australia/NZ
- International Energy Agency calls 'Peak' on OECD Oil Demand
- Australian Senate: Peak Oil motion defeated 31:6
- The Bullroarer - Friday 20th November 2009
TOD:Net Energy
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- David Strahan
- Early Warning
- The Energy Blog
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- Health After Oil
- jeffvail.net
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Finance & Economics Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Calculated Risk
- The Crash Course
- Ecological Economics
- Econbrowser
- Environmental Economics
- Infectious Greed
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
Organizations
Peak Oil Primers
Beware email scams!
Beware email scams claiming to be from this site. We do not have any job openings. If anyone contacts you about a job at The Oil Drum, do not reply to them, and definitely do not give them any personal information or send them money. Read more here.
“Of all races in an advanced stage of civilization, the American is the least accessible to long views… Always and everywhere in a hurry to get rich, he does not give a thought to remote consequences; he sees only present advantages… He does not remember, he does not feel, he lives in a materialist dream.”
—Moiseide Ostrogorski (1902, 302-303)
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Nate Hagens, Gail the Actuary, Prof. Goose
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Heading Out, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Sam Foucher, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Campfire: Glenn, Jason Bradford
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Emeritus: Stuart Staniford
- Technician: Super G
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.










GAIA Host Collective
Thanks for doing a good job of tying all of the pieces of this story together. It seems like a story we will be hearing repeated in slightly different variations, getting worse and worse, as time goes on.
But never any apparent concern for Dangerous Climate Change - the only proposed solution to these problems seems to be burn even more coal, gas and oil!
I don't know what latitude you are at, but here in the UK - without heat in winter, I would guess 50% of people are stuffed. If not fatally, then we are talking life turned upside down emergency type thing. I am very warm blooded, but a house with no heat would be a real challenge even for me. This is something the UK has not had to endure in ~1500 years. They will burn EVERYTHING. No one will remember CO2 conc anymore.
When was the last time we had a real winter here in the UK? My son is 17 and literally only a handful of times in his life have we had snow. Yet I remember winters between 1980-90 when we had day time temperatures for weeks at a time below zero.
Tracking Bloomberg daily only last Wednesday (weather quite warm) UK gas supply fell short of demand as it did in a colder snap back in December. Goodness know what would happen if we had a 'real' winter here in the UK again. I suspect we would be in real trouble.
Agreed. The real issue is that the end users cannot stockpile energy for winter with gas and electric. We are hostages to fortune and mismanagement. Open coal fires fed by horse drawn coal wagons were as far removed from just in time inventory as it gets. There was enough in reserve at every point to cope with any UK season.
I had remembered seeing an old WWI Punch cartoon showing someone freezing in front of a coal fire in winter clothing and wanted to post a link but oculd not find it. I did find some hstorical article saying in WWI the distribution of coal was nationlized in UK and following article:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:KbCkL4gF3iIJ:www.pbs.org/wgbh/comma...
Link is a bit long I must say...